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> reflecting a sentiment voiced at several companies, complained that the policy seemed to put parents’ needs ahead of theirs. So much for caring about others.

> reflecting a sentiment voiced at several companies, complained that the policy seemed to put parents’ needs ahead of theirs. So much for caring about others. As someone who doesn't have children, this still sounds really selfish of them to complain. Instead, the childless should petition HR for a complementary benefit (additional PTO) when the pandemic is over or a bonus (cash) now for picking up the slack. Complaining without solutions will fall on deaf ears

mdorazio 6y ago
Additional PTO at many companies is a joke because there's no mandate to actually use it, and definitely no compensation for leftover. Usually the opposite, in fact - the culture strongly encourages people to use as little PTO as possible. Monetary rewards are really the only way people are going to be ok with different treatment.
- MacsHeadroom 6y ago
  California mandates paying for unused PTO.
  - mdorazio 6y ago
    Have you not worked in California? This is sidestepped by offering "unlimited PTO" at every company I've worked at in the last 10 years. I can only think of one friend here who actually got paid out for unused PTO.
    - wuunderbar 6y ago
      This is just very reflective of hip start-ups. A large amount of tech companies (i.e., more established ones) have standard 15-21 day PTO accrual policies. I've gotten paid out twice for my PTO and one of them actually happened to be a "hip start-up" who didn't believe in "unlimited PTO".
      - dvtrn 6y ago
        I choose to see your personal anecdote with my own, if you’ll appreciate it as far as pleasant exchange will allow; the “unlimited vacation” model (or “Flexible PTO” whatever we want to call it) seems to be becoming less of a ‘hip start-up’ thing, as experienced in my last two jobs-and widely becoming a recruiting hook in even established enterprises: one was a boring as hell telecom provider introduced it a year before I departed, the other was an equally boring as hell real estate software vendor introduced it years before my arrival. $currentEmployer is announcing with rolling it out next year, they themselves are a rather boring healthcare systems provider. Maybe the difference lies in how the two of us define ‘hip start-up’, though.

mdorazio 6y ago

Additional PTO at many companies is a joke because there's no mandate to actually use it, and definitely no compensation for leftover. Usually the opposite, in fact - the culture strongly encourages people to use as little PTO as possible. Monetary rewards are really the only way people are going to be ok with different treatment.

MacsHeadroom 6y ago
California mandates paying for unused PTO.
- mdorazio 6y ago
  Have you not worked in California? This is sidestepped by offering "unlimited PTO" at every company I've worked at in the last 10 years. I can only think of one friend here who actually got paid out for unused PTO.
  - wuunderbar 6y ago
    This is just very reflective of hip start-ups. A large amount of tech companies (i.e., more established ones) have standard 15-21 day PTO accrual policies. I've gotten paid out twice for my PTO and one of them actually happened to be a "hip start-up" who didn't believe in "unlimited PTO".
    - dvtrn 6y ago
      I choose to see your personal anecdote with my own, if you’ll appreciate it as far as pleasant exchange will allow; the “unlimited vacation” model (or “Flexible PTO” whatever we want to call it) seems to be becoming less of a ‘hip start-up’ thing, as experienced in my last two jobs-and widely becoming a recruiting hook in even established enterprises: one was a boring as hell telecom provider introduced it a year before I departed, the other was an equally boring as hell real estate software vendor introduced it years before my arrival. $currentEmployer is announcing with rolling it out next year, they themselves are a rather boring healthcare systems provider. Maybe the difference lies in how the two of us define ‘hip start-up’, though.