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You can install Chromium from a third party source just like you could before. New distribution releases always add and remove packages. Chromium has been remo

by rlpb 6y ago

You can install Chromium from a third party source just like you could before. New distribution releases always add and remove packages. Chromium has been removed (as a deb). It's is no longer packaged as a deb because it's a rolling release upstream and it was too much work to backport featureful rolling release to debs.

NeutronStar 6y ago
Whats the point of using Ubuntu at that point? Why not just use Debian if you're gonna manually install everything anyway instead?
Delk 6y ago
The transition in Chromium packaging is understandable from a maintenance point of view. However, the general argument that you can just keep using the system without using snaps "just fine" doesn't really hold if the snaps begin to replace rather than supplement software that used to be packaged without it. The same is also somewhat true if first-class tools such as Software (as in the "store" GUI) begin to push snap packages as the first thing, because then you will, by default, need to go through additional steps to find the packages that you want, and which used to be available as the first choice. You can still do things, of course, but it might be that you need to start getting around the snap-centric design choices more often, and at that point it doesn't come at no usability cost to you anymore. I don't actually use Ubuntu at the moment, so I don't know how much that is the case now, but if it is (or if seems like it's going that way), I understand the frustration.
- dabockster 6y ago
  > However, the general argument that you can just keep using the system without using snaps "just fine" doesn't really hold if the snaps begin to replace rather than supplement software that used to be packaged without it. Well, if you don't like it, you can always fork it. That's the beauty of open source. /sarcasm Seriously though, all out replacing stuff with Snaps doesn't seem like the right move.
mariusor 6y ago
> it was too much work to backport featureful rolling release to debs. Considering that (as other posters have mentioned) deb packages are released by the vendor in this case it feels like a flimsy excuse.

by rlpb 6y ago

NeutronStar 6y ago

Whats the point of using Ubuntu at that point? Why not just use Debian if you're gonna manually install everything anyway instead?

Delk 6y ago

The transition in Chromium packaging is understandable from a maintenance point of view. However, the general argument that you can just keep using the system without using snaps "just fine" doesn't really hold if the snaps begin to replace rather than supplement software that used to be packaged without it. The same is also somewhat true if first-class tools such as Software (as in the "store" GUI) begin to push snap packages as the first thing, because then you will, by default, need to go through additional steps to find the packages that you want, and which used to be available as the first choice. You can still do things, of course, but it might be that you need to start getting around the snap-centric design choices more often, and at that point it doesn't come at no usability cost to you anymore. I don't actually use Ubuntu at the moment, so I don't know how much that is the case now, but if it is (or if seems like it's going that way), I understand the frustration.

dabockster 6y ago
> However, the general argument that you can just keep using the system without using snaps "just fine" doesn't really hold if the snaps begin to replace rather than supplement software that used to be packaged without it. Well, if you don't like it, you can always fork it. That's the beauty of open source. /sarcasm Seriously though, all out replacing stuff with Snaps doesn't seem like the right move.

mariusor 6y ago

> it was too much work to backport featureful rolling release to debs. Considering that (as other posters have mentioned) deb packages are released by the vendor in this case it feels like a flimsy excuse.