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what is the main problem this snap thing is looking to address ?

by tsjq 6y ago

beefhash 6y ago
Upstream moving faster than downstream Linux distributions can possibly keep up with.
- gspr 6y ago
  The proper solution is for upstream to behave.
  - wander_homer 6y ago
    If you're solution to the issue is, that upstream may only depend on 10 year old API/ABIs, then I'll gladly misbehave. Why should I hold back my software for old, but still supported distributions like RHEL 6?
    - gspr 6y ago
      There's a lot between "depending on 10 year old APIs" and the "we release every 7 days, you can only assume last week's version is supported" that is all the rage these days.
      - wander_homer 6y ago
        Once people pay me enough to maintain old versions, I'll gladly spend some time on it. Until then I'd rather look forward and use my limited time on things I care about and if a new API allows me to do that quicker, easier or more reliably, then I'm all in.
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rlpb 6y ago
> what is the main problem this snap thing is looking to address ? Third party software developers wanting to push their latest software releases directly to users, and for users wanting to install such software. For users who are happy to use the traditional distribution-curated model, getting all "feature" software updates when doing a distribution release upgrade only, snaps are not necessary and you can use Ubuntu 20.04 perfectly fine, as normal, without using snaps.
- tsjq 6y ago
  thanks, that explains . is it okay if such users get rid of all snap stuff from their Ubuntu 20.04 installation ? would the Ubuntu continue to work fine ? Browser, terminal, vi, java, python, etc mainly .
  - rlpb 6y ago
    Yes - that'll work fine. As others have pointed out, Chromium is no longer packaged as a deb. You can use Firefox, or get Chromium from another source. An AppImage is available for example. I haven't tried it, but it should be functionally equivalent to using a distribution deb. Or use Google's Chrome deb, for example.

what is the main problem this snap thing is looking to address ?

by tsjq 6y ago

what is the main problem this snap thing is looking to address ?

beefhash 6y ago

Upstream moving faster than downstream Linux distributions can possibly keep up with.

gspr 6y ago
The proper solution is for upstream to behave.
- wander_homer 6y ago
  If you're solution to the issue is, that upstream may only depend on 10 year old API/ABIs, then I'll gladly misbehave. Why should I hold back my software for old, but still supported distributions like RHEL 6?
  - gspr 6y ago
    There's a lot between "depending on 10 year old APIs" and the "we release every 7 days, you can only assume last week's version is supported" that is all the rage these days.
    - wander_homer 6y ago
      Once people pay me enough to maintain old versions, I'll gladly spend some time on it. Until then I'd rather look forward and use my limited time on things I care about and if a new API allows me to do that quicker, easier or more reliably, then I'm all in.

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rlpb 6y ago

> what is the main problem this snap thing is looking to address ? Third party software developers wanting to push their latest software releases directly to users, and for users wanting to install such software. For users who are happy to use the traditional distribution-curated model, getting all "feature" software updates when doing a distribution release upgrade only, snaps are not necessary and you can use Ubuntu 20.04 perfectly fine, as normal, without using snaps.

tsjq 6y ago
thanks, that explains . is it okay if such users get rid of all snap stuff from their Ubuntu 20.04 installation ? would the Ubuntu continue to work fine ? Browser, terminal, vi, java, python, etc mainly .
- rlpb 6y ago
  Yes - that'll work fine. As others have pointed out, Chromium is no longer packaged as a deb. You can use Firefox, or get Chromium from another source. An AppImage is available for example. I haven't tried it, but it should be functionally equivalent to using a distribution deb. Or use Google's Chrome deb, for example.