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I agree. Yes, hjkl are no longer a single cluster in Dvorak, but jk are now on one's left hand for vertical movement and hl are on one's right. So it has that
by jrib 6y ago
I agree. Yes, hjkl are no longer a single cluster in Dvorak, but jk are now on one's left hand for vertical movement and hl are on one's right. So it has that advantage. Like you pointed out though, you want to avoid overusing those keys to move around anyway.
I did learn Dvorak after Vim. Yes, it meant there was a second layer of added pain. I stopped using vim for a couple of weeks altogether, learned Dvorak to the point where I could touch type again (although more slowly), then went ahead and retrained the muscle memory for vim.
For anyone not used to using vim, vim users get to the point where they think "change word" and their mind maps that to top row middle finger, bottom row middle finger. There's no middle step of "change word" -> "cw". So just learning the muscle memory for letters isn't sufficient for then using vim as fast as you could before. At least that's how it was for me.
As someone who also started feeling RSI symptoms in his early 30s, I definitely recommend learning Dvorak and picking up a split keyboard. I like the ergodox, personally. The straight columns seem to help too. I think other alternative layouts and ergonomic keyboard combinations have their merits too.
For anyone else hesitating, observe how frequently your wrists end up in awkward angles while typing on a regular qwerty layout. That and the pain I started to feel is what motivated me.
- nandhinianand 6y agoI also learnt QWERTY->vim->DVORAK in that order... And yeah i started experimenting with DVORAK when I was trying to build a habit of journal and found that it makes quite a bit of difference to typing continuously for say 15 minutes or more. Much less tiring and much less errors. Currently considering expanding out from vim into vscode or pycharm.... (have failed and come back to vim multiple times in the past due to muscle memory).
- miccah 6y agoI also learned Dvorak after many years of vim, and relearning the muscle memory was the most frustrating part. Not much you can do but stick with it though, and eventually it gets easier.