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I'm sure the guidelines forbid trolling too and that's what the user is doing

dang 6y ago
They do, but it doesn't work to point at the person when you've broken the rules yourself. Otherwise we'd end up in a downward spiral, because it always feels like the other person started it and did worse and you were just reacting. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=downward%20spiral%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... We do try to do both-sides moderation when we can, because it makes the medicine easier for everybody, but we don't see everything that gets posted here. If you see a post that ought to have been moderated but hasn't been, the likeliest explanation is that we didn't see it. You can help by flagging it or emailing us at hn@ycombinator.com. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=likeliest%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... Re trolling: people are too quick to invoke the t-word when other users are propagating views that seem wrong, especially when they seem perversely wrong. We seem generally to be able to handle disagreement that's within (say) a standard deviation from our own views, but outside that, it's hard to assume good faith anymore—it feels obvious that the other person must be manipulating or lying somehow. That's not a trustworthy feeling. It probably comes from our being hard-wired for smaller groups than the ones we encounter online. In much larger groups that are spread over many places, the distribution of opinions is much wider, meaning that each of us is certain to encounter opinions that seem perversely wrong to us, just by the natural functioning of the community. In reality, the world is a much larger place than our spectrum of feels-like-normal opinion allows for, and HN is a large enough sample of the world that this mismatch comes up here a lot. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=standard%20deviation%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23308098 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23308098

dang 6y ago

They do, but it doesn't work to point at the person when you've broken the rules yourself. Otherwise we'd end up in a downward spiral, because it always feels like the other person started it and did worse and you were just reacting. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=downward%20spiral%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... We do try to do both-sides moderation when we can, because it makes the medicine easier for everybody, but we don't see everything that gets posted here. If you see a post that ought to have been moderated but hasn't been, the likeliest explanation is that we didn't see it. You can help by flagging it or emailing us at hn@ycombinator.com. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=likeliest%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... Re trolling: people are too quick to invoke the t-word when other users are propagating views that seem wrong, especially when they seem perversely wrong. We seem generally to be able to handle disagreement that's within (say) a standard deviation from our own views, but outside that, it's hard to assume good faith anymore—it feels obvious that the other person must be manipulating or lying somehow. That's not a trustworthy feeling. It probably comes from our being hard-wired for smaller groups than the ones we encounter online. In much larger groups that are spread over many places, the distribution of opinions is much wider, meaning that each of us is certain to encounter opinions that seem perversely wrong to us, just by the natural functioning of the community. In reality, the world is a much larger place than our spectrum of feels-like-normal opinion allows for, and HN is a large enough sample of the world that this mismatch comes up here a lot. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=standard%20deviation%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23308098 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23308098