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Bushido: the future of hosting

64 points by swombat 16y ago

dasil003 16y ago
Looks awesome, but I'm skeptical there's a significant market for "easier than Heroku". The reason being that if you have a bottleneck setting up things on Heroku, then you're likely pushing way too many apps to afford to pay a monthly fee for each one. I think the target market will be looking for something open source combining AWS provisioning and pre-baked Chef recipe collection.
- kmfrk 16y ago
  I assume that they will eventually support Python, but at the outset, I think Bushido has more implications for average consumers than developers. I don't know who of the two is going to be the early adopter, but this is what makes it so interesting to me compared to Heroku. I already have some Django projects in mind that might replace other services that were much easier to install before - but still a hassle. This way, people will get both a better product and a better installation experience.
- JoachimSchipper 16y ago
  I could see the value in a "want to host this open source thingy somewhere? click >this< button", especially for people who are not primarily techies.
  - sgrove 16y ago
    That's an awesome vision :)
  - dasil003 16y ago
    Yeah, that could be a real sweet spot if marketed properly. I hadn't really thought about that.
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  - danielhfrank 16y ago
    I would personally love this. Even though I am by most measures a techie (I get paid to write software), I find deployment / configuration to be very different from development and generally a whole bucket of hurt that I don't want to get involved in. Have some projects that I simply never wrote because I knew they'd need server setup that I didn't want to do. Now if only there were support for something besides rails...
swombat 16y ago
Flaggers: please see http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2438564 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2438564
znarfor 16y ago
Interesting, I founded La Distribution http://ladistribution.net/ http://ladistribution.net/ and we also wants to help people easily install web applications, and take care of everything (configuration, permission, updates, backups, ...) The difference with Heroku and clones, we're targeting end users rather than developers. Also, we're currently focusing on PHP web apps (Wordpress, Dokuwiki, Status.net, Firefox Sync, ...) but will hopefully expand to other stacks (Ruby, Python) in the future. Oh, and we're open source https://github.com/ladistribution https://github.com/ladistribution :-)
thedeuce 16y ago
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r00fus 16y ago
This niche is currently filled by bitnami and others that provide a native binary, VMware or AMI file. When I want to roll out a quick new trac/redmine/etc, this is one way I can get it demo-ready without a lot of hassle. However this requires someone to have "done the work" building the respective deployment patterns. Also sometimes the deployment isn't quite what I want (so I need to install Passenger for example). If I could do a single click, and start injecting data/config, that'd be more than awesome.
- jacques_chester 16y ago
  I wrote a thesis proposal that came from the opposite direction. If the unit of distribution is a virtual image, why bother to aim for cross-OS portability in your application architecture? Might as well design as though you have a machine to yourself because virtually you do.
mkramlich 16y ago
sounds like recipe script automation + cloud API. if so, nothing magically new. i may have missed something though.

64 points by swombat 16y ago

Looks awesome, but I'm skeptical there's a significant market for "easier than Heroku". The reason being that if you have a bottleneck setting up things on Heroku, then you're likely pushing way too many apps to afford to pay a monthly fee for each one. I think the target market will be looking for something open source combining AWS provisioning and pre-baked Chef recipe collection.

kmfrk 16y ago
I assume that they will eventually support Python, but at the outset, I think Bushido has more implications for average consumers than developers. I don't know who of the two is going to be the early adopter, but this is what makes it so interesting to me compared to Heroku. I already have some Django projects in mind that might replace other services that were much easier to install before - but still a hassle. This way, people will get both a better product and a better installation experience.
JoachimSchipper 16y ago
I could see the value in a "want to host this open source thingy somewhere? click >this< button", especially for people who are not primarily techies.
- sgrove 16y ago
  That's an awesome vision :)
- dasil003 16y ago
  Yeah, that could be a real sweet spot if marketed properly. I hadn't really thought about that.
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- danielhfrank 16y ago
  I would personally love this. Even though I am by most measures a techie (I get paid to write software), I find deployment / configuration to be very different from development and generally a whole bucket of hurt that I don't want to get involved in. Have some projects that I simply never wrote because I knew they'd need server setup that I didn't want to do. Now if only there were support for something besides rails...

swombat 16y ago

Flaggers: please see http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2438564 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2438564

znarfor 16y ago

Interesting, I founded La Distribution http://ladistribution.net/ http://ladistribution.net/ and we also wants to help people easily install web applications, and take care of everything (configuration, permission, updates, backups, ...) The difference with Heroku and clones, we're targeting end users rather than developers. Also, we're currently focusing on PHP web apps (Wordpress, Dokuwiki, Status.net, Firefox Sync, ...) but will hopefully expand to other stacks (Ruby, Python) in the future. Oh, and we're open source https://github.com/ladistribution https://github.com/ladistribution :-)

thedeuce 16y ago

zzzzZZzzzzzz

r00fus 16y ago

This niche is currently filled by bitnami and others that provide a native binary, VMware or AMI file. When I want to roll out a quick new trac/redmine/etc, this is one way I can get it demo-ready without a lot of hassle. However this requires someone to have "done the work" building the respective deployment patterns. Also sometimes the deployment isn't quite what I want (so I need to install Passenger for example). If I could do a single click, and start injecting data/config, that'd be more than awesome.

jacques_chester 16y ago
I wrote a thesis proposal that came from the opposite direction. If the unit of distribution is a virtual image, why bother to aim for cross-OS portability in your application architecture? Might as well design as though you have a machine to yourself because virtually you do.

mkramlich 16y ago

sounds like recipe script automation + cloud API. if so, nothing magically new. i may have missed something though.