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To be frank, the healthcare thing is a US problem (admittedly this is about California). But in countries where that's a solved problem then the problem become
by mattmanser 6y ago
To be frank, the healthcare thing is a US problem (admittedly this is about California).
But in countries where that's a solved problem then the problem becomes Uber/Lyft have no duty of care for sickness or holidays, they're doging other labor laws.
So in the UK, the gig economy argument is focused on that instead, no sickness/holiday pay means drivers are working when they shouldn't, or ending up broke if a long-term illness hits.
There's even been contractors being fined for being sick because they're unable to do deliveries. Which fundamentally goes against the social contract companies are supposed to have in the EU, making them very parasitic.
Then again, most American companies are coming off as extremely parasitic in the EU, doging taxes, etc.
- kazen44 6y ago>So in the UK, the gig economy argument is focused on that instead, no sickness/holiday pay means drivers are working when they shouldn't, or ending up broke if a long-term illness hits. There's even been contractors being fined for being sick because they're unable to do deliveries. Which fundamentally goes against the social contract companies are supposed to have in the EU, making them very parasitic. This is the major pain point. Uber and Lyft see their employees as contracters and thus do not pay their fair dues in maintaining the healthcare and social system (while still getting the majority of the benefits from it). It might be more beneficial from a finanicial perspective for uber's shareholders, but it ruins the social prospect of the community as a whole in the longterm.
- rs999gti 6y ago> Which fundamentally goes against the social contract companies are supposed to have in the EU, making them very parasitic. I found the social contract, but could not find anyone who actually signed it: https://steemit.com/anarchism/@ritherz/the-social-contract https://steemit.com/anarchism/@ritherz/the-social-contract
- mattmanser 6y agoWell, I'm personally happy for you to not invest in the social contract if you're happy to not use any infrastructure or services in our country, including our power, water, internet, etc. and including our legal system after I stab you in the eye and steal all your shit, while I'm happily being protected by Her Majesty's Army, Navy, Airforce and our Policemen, Firemen and NHS. That sounds totally fair to me, be free little anarchist! Wallow in your shit without sewers or water. Sounds delightfully rustic, but not for me.
- meheleventyone 6y agoYeah and we see other parasitic anti-social behaviour like zero-hour contracts. The idea that basic protections are adequate is sadly not true and people with little choice in employer need to make a living that sustains them.
- novok 6y agoShouldn't long term illness be covered by disability insurance then? These are all insurance problems that eventually end up with the government being the most efficient end point, where the tax for them should collected for any kind of personal income, no matter if it is capital gains, W2 or independent contractor work.