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You could get a Valve Index instead. That's not tied to anything IIRC and is at least as good as the latest oculus headset.

warp 6y ago
That needs a powerful gaming PC though. The whole reason the Oculus Quest is so popular is because it is a standalone device.
- ihumanable 6y ago
  Yes, this was why I bought one, before the coupling requirement. My brother got one and loved it, he raved about how fun VR was. I had considered it for a while, but I wasn't ready to commit $1000-$2000 for a capable gaming rig + however much the VR headset was going to cost just to try it out. Oculus Quest was the perfect way to try out VR for me, a couple hundred dollars for a pretty good VR headset. No need to have sensors on polls or anything. Super lightweight way to dip a toe into VR and see if the medium was a compelling experience for me. I remember researching if I had to login with facebook and found that you could just make an Oculus account with an email address. Got it, enjoyed it, still enjoy it. The decision to couple the Oculus Quest and your facebook account puts a seriously sour taste in my mouth though. I think that when that deadline comes up, I'll probably just sell it and buy something that doesn't have that requirement, it will likely be time for an upgrade anyways.
- scaryclam 6y ago
  The Index does, but there are a number of options that are not Oculus and provide the standalone experience. My point was really: there are other options that are at least as good, so you don't need to ditch the idea of getting VR.
pdehaan 6y ago
The Quest is unfortunately still a bit unique as the only standalone 6DoF headset. Edit: not truly unique as pointed out. The Index is more than double the cost for something that requires spending more money for a computer to run the whole setup. ...not that that's for nothing, the results are better than any of Oculus' products graphically. But it's a different product.
- moron4hire 6y ago
  Vive Focus and Pico Neo G2 are both standalone, 6-DOF, and still in production (unlike the Lenovo Mirage Solo, which was the first standalone 6-DOF). Hardware is nearly identical to the Quest (they all run Android on a Snapdragon 835). Software experience is quite different, though.
  - pdehaan 6y ago
    I'd be curious about what you mean by software experience. Presumably oculus home gets replaced, but is the performance of things like tracking noticably different?
    - moron4hire 6y ago
      Yeah, the home screen is "different" (though that's actually probably where they are the most alike). It's stuff like the boundary setup experience is very different. Their respective SDKs are incompatible with each other, so the available software library is very limited on the Focus and Neo. But they are also mostly "stock" Android devices (other than the VR related APIs), so as a developer there are no artificial barriers like on the Oculus platform. Tracking-wise, there isn't a lot of difference. Certainly not enough to warrant giving all your data to Facebook.
      - retromario 6y ago
        I haven't tried the Pico but the Vive Focus is not anywhere close to the experience of the Quest, especially when it comes to tracking. The Quest stands out because the tracking is as accurate and consistent as on desktop class VR headsets. The software and user experience is a clear notch above any other standalone headset.
        moron4hire 6y ago
        Yes, the Quest is better, that can't be denied, but I don't think it's head-and-shoulders better. I think we need to be a little more forgiving of the minor flaws of the other headsets on the market (like the Vive Focus) specifically because we need to not allow Facebook to realize their plans of dominating VR [0]. [0] https://www.scribd.com/document/399594551/2015-06-22-MARK-S-VISION https://www.scribd.com/document/399594551/2015-06-22-MARK-S-...

warp 6y ago

That needs a powerful gaming PC though. The whole reason the Oculus Quest is so popular is because it is a standalone device.

ihumanable 6y ago
Yes, this was why I bought one, before the coupling requirement. My brother got one and loved it, he raved about how fun VR was. I had considered it for a while, but I wasn't ready to commit $1000-$2000 for a capable gaming rig + however much the VR headset was going to cost just to try it out. Oculus Quest was the perfect way to try out VR for me, a couple hundred dollars for a pretty good VR headset. No need to have sensors on polls or anything. Super lightweight way to dip a toe into VR and see if the medium was a compelling experience for me. I remember researching if I had to login with facebook and found that you could just make an Oculus account with an email address. Got it, enjoyed it, still enjoy it. The decision to couple the Oculus Quest and your facebook account puts a seriously sour taste in my mouth though. I think that when that deadline comes up, I'll probably just sell it and buy something that doesn't have that requirement, it will likely be time for an upgrade anyways.
scaryclam 6y ago
The Index does, but there are a number of options that are not Oculus and provide the standalone experience. My point was really: there are other options that are at least as good, so you don't need to ditch the idea of getting VR.

pdehaan 6y ago

The Quest is unfortunately still a bit unique as the only standalone 6DoF headset. Edit: not truly unique as pointed out. The Index is more than double the cost for something that requires spending more money for a computer to run the whole setup. ...not that that's for nothing, the results are better than any of Oculus' products graphically. But it's a different product.

moron4hire 6y ago
Vive Focus and Pico Neo G2 are both standalone, 6-DOF, and still in production (unlike the Lenovo Mirage Solo, which was the first standalone 6-DOF). Hardware is nearly identical to the Quest (they all run Android on a Snapdragon 835). Software experience is quite different, though.
- pdehaan 6y ago
  I'd be curious about what you mean by software experience. Presumably oculus home gets replaced, but is the performance of things like tracking noticably different?
  - moron4hire 6y ago
    Yeah, the home screen is "different" (though that's actually probably where they are the most alike). It's stuff like the boundary setup experience is very different. Their respective SDKs are incompatible with each other, so the available software library is very limited on the Focus and Neo. But they are also mostly "stock" Android devices (other than the VR related APIs), so as a developer there are no artificial barriers like on the Oculus platform. Tracking-wise, there isn't a lot of difference. Certainly not enough to warrant giving all your data to Facebook.
    - retromario 6y ago
      I haven't tried the Pico but the Vive Focus is not anywhere close to the experience of the Quest, especially when it comes to tracking. The Quest stands out because the tracking is as accurate and consistent as on desktop class VR headsets. The software and user experience is a clear notch above any other standalone headset.
      - moron4hire 6y ago
        Yes, the Quest is better, that can't be denied, but I don't think it's head-and-shoulders better. I think we need to be a little more forgiving of the minor flaws of the other headsets on the market (like the Vive Focus) specifically because we need to not allow Facebook to realize their plans of dominating VR [0]. [0] https://www.scribd.com/document/399594551/2015-06-22-MARK-S-VISION https://www.scribd.com/document/399594551/2015-06-22-MARK-S-...