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> All the people arguing semantics when the author lives in a repressive dictatorship that would literally torture you for a confession and then execute you fo

> All the people arguing semantics when the author lives in a repressive dictatorship that would literally torture you for a confession and then execute you for it.. if anyone EVER comes by this PR even a decade from now. He is using a language that was mainly developed by Israeli and has Israeli on its core team, this is a flimsy excuse not to merge a PR. Laravele itself probably already has Israeli contributors too. This argument makes no sense. If he is using PHP and Laravele he is allegedly already in danger by your logic, since using code and libraries authored by Israeli. This isn't a github or a git issue, at all.

sudosysgen 6y ago
Doesn't change that people will be able to use this against him in the future, perhaps violently.
- throw_m239339 6y ago
  > Doesn't change that people will be able to use this against him in the future, perhaps violently. The Iranian government already has a case against him then, he is using PHP and committing code on github.
  - sudosysgen 6y ago
    Not really, in practice no one will get you from using publicly-available code that is part of a larger project. Directly interacting with someone, that's different.
proto-n 6y ago
In these cases often optics matter more than facts. Using something common that has some israelian authors? Probably fine. Personally accepting a contribution from someone with a very israelian sounding name? Possibly treason, I would want to take chances.
- throw_m239339 6y ago
  > In these cases often optics matter more than facts. Using something common that has some israelian authors? Probably fine. Personally accepting a contribution from someone with a very israelian sounding name? Possibly treason, I would want to take chances. What do you think is going to happen to that story relayed on hackernews and reddit? This developer by doing so has made himself a target of the Iranian governement already which is going to check how much "Israeli code" this developer relies on, just by looking at the composer.json dependency file. What chances are you talking about again?
  - proto-n 6y ago
    I don't think he has anticipated this and I think he is probably panicking right now. I would be. Even though this got attention because he tried to comply, getting any government attention for any reason is not a good idea in such situatios.
reificator 6y ago
> He is using a language that was mainly developed by Israeli and has Israeli on its core team, this is a flimsy excuse not to merge a PR. Laravele itself probably already has Israeli contributors too. This argument makes no sense. If he is using PHP and Laravele he is allegedly already in danger by your logic, since using code and libraries authored by Israeli. This isn't a github or a git issue, at all. You've done it! You've found a logical hole in the policies of a government! Everyone is happy, the maintainer is no longer at risk of death if they approve this PR, and the world is saved once again. Thank you for your service. For an actual response, the maintainer only states that they are not allowed to have any relationship with someone from Israel. While possible, they do not state that they cannot use software that was contributed to by someone from Israel.
- throw_m239339 6y ago
  > You've done it! You've found a logical hole in the policies of a government! Everyone is happy, the maintainer is no longer at risk of death if they approve this PR, and the world is saved once again. That developer made himself a target for retaliation the moment he started using github and commit code there. Spare me your sarcasms.
  - reificator 6y ago
    > That developer made himself a target for retaliation the moment he started using github and commit code there. Spare me your sarcasms. And if you are toeing the line with what's acceptable, increasing your exposure by even a little could cross that line. Spare me your lack of empathy.
    - throw_m239339 6y ago
      > Spare me your lack of empathy. This has nothing to with empathy, you can't be on Github and discriminate PR submitters because they are Israeli. Pretty sure it violates github TOS.
      - 6y ago

sudosysgen 6y ago

Doesn't change that people will be able to use this against him in the future, perhaps violently.

throw_m239339 6y ago
> Doesn't change that people will be able to use this against him in the future, perhaps violently. The Iranian government already has a case against him then, he is using PHP and committing code on github.
- sudosysgen 6y ago
  Not really, in practice no one will get you from using publicly-available code that is part of a larger project. Directly interacting with someone, that's different.

proto-n 6y ago

In these cases often optics matter more than facts. Using something common that has some israelian authors? Probably fine. Personally accepting a contribution from someone with a very israelian sounding name? Possibly treason, I would want to take chances.

throw_m239339 6y ago
> In these cases often optics matter more than facts. Using something common that has some israelian authors? Probably fine. Personally accepting a contribution from someone with a very israelian sounding name? Possibly treason, I would want to take chances. What do you think is going to happen to that story relayed on hackernews and reddit? This developer by doing so has made himself a target of the Iranian governement already which is going to check how much "Israeli code" this developer relies on, just by looking at the composer.json dependency file. What chances are you talking about again?
- proto-n 6y ago
  I don't think he has anticipated this and I think he is probably panicking right now. I would be. Even though this got attention because he tried to comply, getting any government attention for any reason is not a good idea in such situatios.

reificator 6y ago

> He is using a language that was mainly developed by Israeli and has Israeli on its core team, this is a flimsy excuse not to merge a PR. Laravele itself probably already has Israeli contributors too. This argument makes no sense. If he is using PHP and Laravele he is allegedly already in danger by your logic, since using code and libraries authored by Israeli. This isn't a github or a git issue, at all. You've done it! You've found a logical hole in the policies of a government! Everyone is happy, the maintainer is no longer at risk of death if they approve this PR, and the world is saved once again. Thank you for your service. For an actual response, the maintainer only states that they are not allowed to have any relationship with someone from Israel. While possible, they do not state that they cannot use software that was contributed to by someone from Israel.

throw_m239339 6y ago
> You've done it! You've found a logical hole in the policies of a government! Everyone is happy, the maintainer is no longer at risk of death if they approve this PR, and the world is saved once again. That developer made himself a target for retaliation the moment he started using github and commit code there. Spare me your sarcasms.
- reificator 6y ago
  > That developer made himself a target for retaliation the moment he started using github and commit code there. Spare me your sarcasms. And if you are toeing the line with what's acceptable, increasing your exposure by even a little could cross that line. Spare me your lack of empathy.
  - throw_m239339 6y ago
    > Spare me your lack of empathy. This has nothing to with empathy, you can't be on Github and discriminate PR submitters because they are Israeli. Pretty sure it violates github TOS.
    - 6y ago