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I never knew about such law. For those who have Pikachu eyes now, or whoever gave thumbs down on the maintainer comment, I dare you to do a single tiny transact

I never knew about such law. For those who have Pikachu eyes now, or whoever gave thumbs down on the maintainer comment, I dare you to do a single tiny transaction with Iran or an Iranian citizen which would be in violation of unilateral sanctions imposed by US on Iran and Iranian national globally and you'd see how you'll get a taste of freedom and liberty and some prison time to sweeten the deal by US. If there's #metoo movement for this, put me and other +85 million Iranians in it. Ref: https://alireza.gonevis.com/how-i-didnt-get-my-first-paying-customer/ https://alireza.gonevis.com/how-i-didnt-get-my-first-paying-...

kome 6y ago
exactly, the hypocrisy is just off the charts. Or, a more generous interpretation, is that many people are just unaware of American imperialism.
newswasboring 6y ago
I get why people should not thumbs down and the whole tough guy angle, but I have never heard US putting someone in jail for a merged PR. Many of the big open source projects are american citizen lead and they accept PRs from all around the world.
- Alir3z4 6y ago
  Tell that to GitHub to force and ban Iranian github repos that were private or gitlab completely non reachable for Iranians due to GCP policies.
  - newswasboring 6y ago
    1. There is a difference between jailing/torturing someone and a private company restricting its user base. 2. Countries have the right to have trade sanctions towards other countries. Does US abuse its rights some times? Absolutely. But does not make it not their right.
    - Alir3z4 6y ago
      1. Torturing is illegal and prohibited by constitution in Iran. A single sign of torture can easily make a judge dismiss the trial. Although this was not the case pre revolution era (where the Shah, head of state was a US and west puppet). A private company restricting its service to a certain nationalities is clearly racist. What would a private repo would do ? Hide the secret nuclear weapon design system in a US company? 2. Countries have rights to impose trade sanctions on whoever they want as long as their intentions is not malicious and not directly toward the individual and citizens in hope to cause revolution and civil war to topple the government (what has been said by Brian Hook, Mike Pompeo, John Bolton and ...) or making Iran the bogeyman to increase the arm industry sales in the region. If you're not aware, the WW3 has been long started, it's not by bullet much anymore, but by much gruesome and brutal tactics such as prohibiting the sale of medicine in the pandemic or preventing to get a simple cancer medicine for small children.
      - gruez 6y ago
        >1. Torturing is illegal and prohibited by constitution in Iran. A single sign of torture can easily make a judge dismiss the trial. uhh... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24365648 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24365648
        Alir3z4 6y ago
        He has killed a police officer and his brothers would have done if they could. The same protests that was caused by US to make civil unrest and riot to topple the government I'm sure the "anonymous" sources have a lot of hard evidence to say he has been tortured. The same kind of evidence (excel files) they provided to show Iranian death over COVID19 were many times more than official numbers
        newswasboring 6y ago
        Are iranian court rulings open for public reading? If yes, at least we can look at the evidence being presented.
- thrwyoilarticle 6y ago
  Sergey Aleynikov's treatment wasn't far off
navidr 6y ago
Yeap. It is only “bad” when an Iranian is doing it. When they impose sanctions to kill literally children [1] they are civil human being. 1) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R0WDCYcUJ4o https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R0WDCYcUJ4o Update: I am not American and I have zero intention of getting into your internal business. But you should understand when it comes to politics you have to hear the other-side too. Update 2: dang why I have been flagged? Just because I don’t agree with the narrative here?
- Alir3z4 6y ago
  Yes, the price worth it she says. It's deafening how loud they lie and how easy people belive and accept it.
- hinkley 6y ago
  This whole thread I’m wondering how many respondents are American. We really have no room to talk right now. Vote, for the love of god and your own mothers.
  - ahelwer 6y ago
    Not sure what voting is supposed to accomplish here, Democrats love sanctions. Even Elizabeth Warren, who is decidedly pretty far left as far as the party goes, voted for Iran sanctions in 2017.
  - umanwizard 6y ago
    I'll bite. Who do you suggest we vote for that will stop these practices?
    - flyingfences 6y ago
      Dr. Jorgensen
hinkley 6y ago
First time I worked with crypto, it was still a munition. Things were so bad, you weren’t even supposed to ship code that was set up to handle crypto with the crypto removed. Which is why some APIs are still convoluted today. Last time I worked with crypto, the sanctions had been aligned with overall trade sanctions, so after wasting hours talking about it, turns out my code could go everywhere our products could be legally sold so it wasn’t an issue? You could have led with that.
macspoofing 6y ago
>or whoever gave thumbs down on the maintainer comment To be fair, who knows what the 'thumbs down' emoji is meant to represent in context and probably varies from each person who flagged it as such. It could mean 'boo maintainer', or it could be 'boo to the law and circumstance'. It's just an emoji. >I dare you to do a single tiny transaction with Iran or an Iranian citizen which would be in violation of unilateral sanctions Yeah. That's the reality. Like you imply, it's not the maintainer's fault. He's just trying to do the best he can in a situation that he doesn't control. Just as an American would if they found themselves in a situation that could intentionally be interpreted as breaking sanctions. >you'd see how you'll get a taste of freedom and liberty and some prison time to sweeten the deal by US. I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, though you are overstating it. There is plenty of blame to go around, but let's not absolve Iran of their responsibility in getting getting themselves to a place of direct conflict with the United States. After all, there are a lot of non-democratic/authoritarian nations that do not, in fact, have these kinds of sanctions placed on them. Since the Iranian revolution, the Iranian government has been following a path of direct confrontation with the United States and this is the end-result - their economy and people (like yourself) have been hurt through their policies, while United States is fine.
- Alir3z4 6y ago
  From maintainer prospective he has gotten thumb down, whether it's "boo to to maintainer or to the law". That may not be the actual case but the majority of people surprised here clearly shows they're not aware or don't want to see the other side of the table. I agree, Iran is really threatening US: https://lipstick-and-war-crimes.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/US-bases-around-Iran-jpg.jpg https://lipstick-and-war-crimes.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/... how Iran dares to put the country next to US military bases ? Jokes aside. A simple map could clearly shows, US is thousands of miles away from Iran. What they do here ? This place was fine and long before any US warship show up in the Persian Gulf. Was it Islamic Republic in 1953 when US (CIA) and Britain toppled democratically elected prime minister Mosadeq ? Or how about Iran-Iraq war were Iraq was supplied with intels, luxury weapons, naval and air help from US or many other country and being funded billions to continue the war, even French pilot flying their airplanes and Germany supplying them chemical weapons to be used on Iranian civil and US calling Saddam "Our Man in Baqdad", he was the sweetheart until he dared to do something US didn't like and you see what happened to Saddam and great people of Iraq being mascaraed and bombed to ashes. (_Saddam dared to attack Kuwait to take on oil fields because he felt that war with Iran caused tons of financial damages to the country so he thought he deserved the money back from the Arab World, US didn't like it and ..._) Umm, how about Iran and US cooperation to topple Taliban government ? Wasn't that a token of "deescalation", that ended for Iran being called "Axis of Evil" by George W. Bush. How about assassination of Iranian General Qasem Soleimani ? was that a token of friendship by US? He was carrying a meeting response from supreme leader for Saudi Arabia for deescalation and lowering the tension between both countries. For US, a country is either a client state or "let's give them a taste of democracy and libation!" Just because US can bully countries around, it doesn't mean it's a tough guy and we have seen it several times. I hope one day, me and you don't need to have such conversations, ordinary people that only want to have a simple life, food on the table and a peaceful environment where any person on earth can be free from damages caused by others on them, well that's a wishful thinking, but I like to believe someday that would happen.

kome 6y ago

exactly, the hypocrisy is just off the charts. Or, a more generous interpretation, is that many people are just unaware of American imperialism.

newswasboring 6y ago

I get why people should not thumbs down and the whole tough guy angle, but I have never heard US putting someone in jail for a merged PR. Many of the big open source projects are american citizen lead and they accept PRs from all around the world.

Alir3z4 6y ago
Tell that to GitHub to force and ban Iranian github repos that were private or gitlab completely non reachable for Iranians due to GCP policies.
- newswasboring 6y ago
  1. There is a difference between jailing/torturing someone and a private company restricting its user base. 2. Countries have the right to have trade sanctions towards other countries. Does US abuse its rights some times? Absolutely. But does not make it not their right.
  - Alir3z4 6y ago
    1. Torturing is illegal and prohibited by constitution in Iran. A single sign of torture can easily make a judge dismiss the trial. Although this was not the case pre revolution era (where the Shah, head of state was a US and west puppet). A private company restricting its service to a certain nationalities is clearly racist. What would a private repo would do ? Hide the secret nuclear weapon design system in a US company? 2. Countries have rights to impose trade sanctions on whoever they want as long as their intentions is not malicious and not directly toward the individual and citizens in hope to cause revolution and civil war to topple the government (what has been said by Brian Hook, Mike Pompeo, John Bolton and ...) or making Iran the bogeyman to increase the arm industry sales in the region. If you're not aware, the WW3 has been long started, it's not by bullet much anymore, but by much gruesome and brutal tactics such as prohibiting the sale of medicine in the pandemic or preventing to get a simple cancer medicine for small children.
    - gruez 6y ago
      >1. Torturing is illegal and prohibited by constitution in Iran. A single sign of torture can easily make a judge dismiss the trial. uhh... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24365648 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24365648
      - Alir3z4 6y ago
        He has killed a police officer and his brothers would have done if they could. The same protests that was caused by US to make civil unrest and riot to topple the government I'm sure the "anonymous" sources have a lot of hard evidence to say he has been tortured. The same kind of evidence (excel files) they provided to show Iranian death over COVID19 were many times more than official numbers
        newswasboring 6y ago
        Are iranian court rulings open for public reading? If yes, at least we can look at the evidence being presented.
thrwyoilarticle 6y ago
Sergey Aleynikov's treatment wasn't far off

navidr 6y ago

Yeap. It is only “bad” when an Iranian is doing it. When they impose sanctions to kill literally children [1] they are civil human being. 1) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R0WDCYcUJ4o https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R0WDCYcUJ4o Update: I am not American and I have zero intention of getting into your internal business. But you should understand when it comes to politics you have to hear the other-side too. Update 2: dang why I have been flagged? Just because I don’t agree with the narrative here?

Alir3z4 6y ago
Yes, the price worth it she says. It's deafening how loud they lie and how easy people belive and accept it.
hinkley 6y ago
This whole thread I’m wondering how many respondents are American. We really have no room to talk right now. Vote, for the love of god and your own mothers.
- ahelwer 6y ago
  Not sure what voting is supposed to accomplish here, Democrats love sanctions. Even Elizabeth Warren, who is decidedly pretty far left as far as the party goes, voted for Iran sanctions in 2017.
- umanwizard 6y ago
  I'll bite. Who do you suggest we vote for that will stop these practices?
  - flyingfences 6y ago
    Dr. Jorgensen

hinkley 6y ago

First time I worked with crypto, it was still a munition. Things were so bad, you weren’t even supposed to ship code that was set up to handle crypto with the crypto removed. Which is why some APIs are still convoluted today. Last time I worked with crypto, the sanctions had been aligned with overall trade sanctions, so after wasting hours talking about it, turns out my code could go everywhere our products could be legally sold so it wasn’t an issue? You could have led with that.

macspoofing 6y ago

>or whoever gave thumbs down on the maintainer comment To be fair, who knows what the 'thumbs down' emoji is meant to represent in context and probably varies from each person who flagged it as such. It could mean 'boo maintainer', or it could be 'boo to the law and circumstance'. It's just an emoji. >I dare you to do a single tiny transaction with Iran or an Iranian citizen which would be in violation of unilateral sanctions Yeah. That's the reality. Like you imply, it's not the maintainer's fault. He's just trying to do the best he can in a situation that he doesn't control. Just as an American would if they found themselves in a situation that could intentionally be interpreted as breaking sanctions. >you'd see how you'll get a taste of freedom and liberty and some prison time to sweeten the deal by US. I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, though you are overstating it. There is plenty of blame to go around, but let's not absolve Iran of their responsibility in getting getting themselves to a place of direct conflict with the United States. After all, there are a lot of non-democratic/authoritarian nations that do not, in fact, have these kinds of sanctions placed on them. Since the Iranian revolution, the Iranian government has been following a path of direct confrontation with the United States and this is the end-result - their economy and people (like yourself) have been hurt through their policies, while United States is fine.

Alir3z4 6y ago
From maintainer prospective he has gotten thumb down, whether it's "boo to to maintainer or to the law". That may not be the actual case but the majority of people surprised here clearly shows they're not aware or don't want to see the other side of the table. I agree, Iran is really threatening US: https://lipstick-and-war-crimes.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/US-bases-around-Iran-jpg.jpg https://lipstick-and-war-crimes.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/... how Iran dares to put the country next to US military bases ? Jokes aside. A simple map could clearly shows, US is thousands of miles away from Iran. What they do here ? This place was fine and long before any US warship show up in the Persian Gulf. Was it Islamic Republic in 1953 when US (CIA) and Britain toppled democratically elected prime minister Mosadeq ? Or how about Iran-Iraq war were Iraq was supplied with intels, luxury weapons, naval and air help from US or many other country and being funded billions to continue the war, even French pilot flying their airplanes and Germany supplying them chemical weapons to be used on Iranian civil and US calling Saddam "Our Man in Baqdad", he was the sweetheart until he dared to do something US didn't like and you see what happened to Saddam and great people of Iraq being mascaraed and bombed to ashes. (_Saddam dared to attack Kuwait to take on oil fields because he felt that war with Iran caused tons of financial damages to the country so he thought he deserved the money back from the Arab World, US didn't like it and ..._) Umm, how about Iran and US cooperation to topple Taliban government ? Wasn't that a token of "deescalation", that ended for Iran being called "Axis of Evil" by George W. Bush. How about assassination of Iranian General Qasem Soleimani ? was that a token of friendship by US? He was carrying a meeting response from supreme leader for Saudi Arabia for deescalation and lowering the tension between both countries. For US, a country is either a client state or "let's give them a taste of democracy and libation!" Just because US can bully countries around, it doesn't mean it's a tough guy and we have seen it several times. I hope one day, me and you don't need to have such conversations, ordinary people that only want to have a simple life, food on the table and a peaceful environment where any person on earth can be free from damages caused by others on them, well that's a wishful thinking, but I like to believe someday that would happen.