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Why people of color probably shouldn’t get the new Amazon Halo

8 points by bmcn2020 6y ago

jdhbbbhb 6y ago
People of what color?
- djbebs 6y ago
  Obviously those darn fluorescent yellow people. Their bright colors will mess up the sensors
- bmcn2020 6y ago
  If not rhetorical - non-white people. Edit: typo
s1artibartfast 6y ago
So the article never states any problems specific to the Amazon Halo and people of color. The argument presented is that both Law enforcement and AI discriminate against POC. Amazon collaborates with law enforcement and Halo uses "AI", therefore Amazon Halo is bad for POC.
- bmcn2020 6y ago
  As the author - yes, that's kind of the point (sorry if that didn't come across). Halo is a symptom of this disease, unchecked Amazon/etc/capitalist data collection technology that promises much but delivers much worse. Halo is the latest example of this, and unfortunately won't be the last. Simply put: POC or people in general shouldn't get this, not unless we have independent guarantees of security and protections for all, including marginalized communities.
  - s1artibartfast 6y ago
    Thanks for chiming in! I definitely learned more about how amazon processes voice data, which is enough to make me avoid such devices. I did think that the article tried to cover too much ground. In particular, the aspect of AI failing to detect POC seemed to be an unnecessary addition, as I'm not sure how it relates to the Halo.
    - bmcn2020 6y ago
      Thanks for your feedback, really appreciate it. I see what you mean (now that I've stepped away from it). I will definitely take this on board.
Barrin92 6y ago
>Tone is a voice analysis tool that uses machine learning “to analyze energy and positivity in a customer’s voice so they can better understand how they may sound to others, helping improve their communication and relationships.” well nobody should get the damn thing, it sounds like they're trying to turn people into smiling customer service zombies, did the people at Amazon read Brave New World and thought Soma was something they should actually build? "All the advantages of Christianity and alcohol; none of their defects"
gnusty_gnurc 6y ago
> AI’s failure at recognizing marginalized groups There's a remarkable technology with 100% accuracy: the Brooklyn yuppie.

8 points by bmcn2020 6y ago

jdhbbbhb 6y ago

People of what color?

djbebs 6y ago
Obviously those darn fluorescent yellow people. Their bright colors will mess up the sensors
bmcn2020 6y ago
If not rhetorical - non-white people. Edit: typo

s1artibartfast 6y ago

So the article never states any problems specific to the Amazon Halo and people of color. The argument presented is that both Law enforcement and AI discriminate against POC. Amazon collaborates with law enforcement and Halo uses "AI", therefore Amazon Halo is bad for POC.

bmcn2020 6y ago
As the author - yes, that's kind of the point (sorry if that didn't come across). Halo is a symptom of this disease, unchecked Amazon/etc/capitalist data collection technology that promises much but delivers much worse. Halo is the latest example of this, and unfortunately won't be the last. Simply put: POC or people in general shouldn't get this, not unless we have independent guarantees of security and protections for all, including marginalized communities.
- s1artibartfast 6y ago
  Thanks for chiming in! I definitely learned more about how amazon processes voice data, which is enough to make me avoid such devices. I did think that the article tried to cover too much ground. In particular, the aspect of AI failing to detect POC seemed to be an unnecessary addition, as I'm not sure how it relates to the Halo.
  - bmcn2020 6y ago
    Thanks for your feedback, really appreciate it. I see what you mean (now that I've stepped away from it). I will definitely take this on board.

Barrin92 6y ago

>Tone is a voice analysis tool that uses machine learning “to analyze energy and positivity in a customer’s voice so they can better understand how they may sound to others, helping improve their communication and relationships.” well nobody should get the damn thing, it sounds like they're trying to turn people into smiling customer service zombies, did the people at Amazon read Brave New World and thought Soma was something they should actually build? "All the advantages of Christianity and alcohol; none of their defects"

gnusty_gnurc 6y ago

> AI’s failure at recognizing marginalized groups There's a remarkable technology with 100% accuracy: the Brooklyn yuppie.