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These floridian police are basically grooming kids to become criminals What if that was the point? The system is making work to justify its continued existence

These floridian police are basically grooming kids to become criminals What if that was the point? The system is making work to justify its continued existence. The police aren't working for you, they are working for the sheriff, and these interest do not match.

non-entity 6y ago
This is a sherrif too, so they're elected, not neccesarily by any sort of experience or merit. Nobody likes to hear it, but I'm willing to bet this person has been in office for a while. Tough on crime is popular among "model citizen" voters even if it utilizes dystopic tactics.
- baq 6y ago
  what if people who could run against this guy in an election turned out to have high risk pasco profiles?
  - pchristensen 6y ago
    Their grass might be 1/4" too long, or they might not have numbers on their mailbox (examples of justification for police harassment from the article).
- pchristensen 6y ago
  The article says he was appointed by the governor in 2011, and has been re-elected every time since 2012.
save_ferris 6y ago
Could be. The current fight around felons receiving their voting rights in Florida adds another incentive here: the justice system was/is being used to suppress votes by aggressively penalizing kids to take away their voting rights. You're basically picking who gets to vote at that point.
naringas 6y ago
I think about the "war on drugs" with that same pattern. what if the point was never public health but increasing overall corruption? they knew prohibitions increase corruption after the alcohol prohibition... so why not?
- djaque 6y ago
  That was very explicitly the point. We now have top Nixon advisors explaining that they couldn't make hippies or black people illegal, but they could do it by proxy with "the war on drugs" [1]. [1] https://www.businessinsider.com/nixon-adviser-ehrlichman-anti-left-anti-black-war-on-drugs-2019-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/nixon-adviser-ehrlichman-ant...
pstuart 6y ago
Just like the War on Drugs.
coliveira 6y ago
Exactly, it is in the interest of police to create more criminals so they can justify their work. It seems absurd when clearly stated, but that is the end result of what they do.

non-entity 6y ago

This is a sherrif too, so they're elected, not neccesarily by any sort of experience or merit. Nobody likes to hear it, but I'm willing to bet this person has been in office for a while. Tough on crime is popular among "model citizen" voters even if it utilizes dystopic tactics.

baq 6y ago
what if people who could run against this guy in an election turned out to have high risk pasco profiles?
- pchristensen 6y ago
  Their grass might be 1/4" too long, or they might not have numbers on their mailbox (examples of justification for police harassment from the article).
pchristensen 6y ago
The article says he was appointed by the governor in 2011, and has been re-elected every time since 2012.

save_ferris 6y ago

Could be. The current fight around felons receiving their voting rights in Florida adds another incentive here: the justice system was/is being used to suppress votes by aggressively penalizing kids to take away their voting rights. You're basically picking who gets to vote at that point.

naringas 6y ago

I think about the "war on drugs" with that same pattern. what if the point was never public health but increasing overall corruption? they knew prohibitions increase corruption after the alcohol prohibition... so why not?

djaque 6y ago
That was very explicitly the point. We now have top Nixon advisors explaining that they couldn't make hippies or black people illegal, but they could do it by proxy with "the war on drugs" [1]. [1] https://www.businessinsider.com/nixon-adviser-ehrlichman-anti-left-anti-black-war-on-drugs-2019-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/nixon-adviser-ehrlichman-ant...

pstuart 6y ago

Just like the War on Drugs.

coliveira 6y ago

Exactly, it is in the interest of police to create more criminals so they can justify their work. It seems absurd when clearly stated, but that is the end result of what they do.