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Me and my co-workers always share how much we make. It's not a big deal. We understand that some make more, some make a lot less. Most often it's how well you n
by rorrr 16y ago
Me and my co-workers always share how much we make. It's not a big deal. We understand that some make more, some make a lot less. Most often it's how well you negotiate. It rarely has to do with how great your skills are.
If that spreadsheet happened to be in my hands, I wouldn't know how to exploit it. What the author did is ruined the relationship with his manager over a crappy 2% raise.
I would just return it, make a joke, and started interviewing. If you're at the bottom while they tell you that you're great, it's a long way up.
- krobertson 16y agoActually, I think what he did with it was what he should have done. I doubt it ruined the relationship, and from the sounds of the article, nothing indicates that. If anything, it could have strengthened it because he kept his word and approached the situation level headed. He didn't go on the offensive when talking to the manager. It would have put the manager on the defensive and surely ruined the relationship then. Instead, he tried to take the approach of what can he do to make more. He finally got constructive feedback, got a clear explanation of why the differences, and asked for harder assignments to prove himself.
- roel_v 16y ago"He didn't go on the offensive when talking to the manager." Right, and in return the manager put the squeeze on him which cost him thousands if not tens of thousands over the years. He should have * gone to the manager first and have asked for a higher raise (in a non-confrontational way). * used it as leverage for a better description of what he needed to do to get a higher raise in the next review round * not let him be pushed in a corner where he's being compared to his colleagues. This is a sure loss position. You need to differentiate yourself so that you are freed from the mental chains of other people's salaries, and you can argue a higher salary on individual merit. This is a rookie mistake I hear so often (and that people have thanked me for pointing it out to them when I discussed with them about their upcoming salary negotiations). (apart from this, it's refreshing not to have post scores visible!)
- krobertson 16y agoAt this point, I think a lot is being assumed by the post and it is difficult to go further than ones perception of what the author wrote. My perception is different than yours. There really isn't any supporting facts to either.
- gaius 16y agoWhat the author did is ruined the relationship with his manager over a crappy 2% raise. The relationship is what it is. The only thing was before, the manager knew it and he didn't. c/ruined/revealed.
- Estragon 16y agoI had a problem along as a result of sharing. My friend was earning half as much as me, and had a child with a genetic disorder which made child rearing extremely demanding. I felt pretty guilty about it. Fortunately, she changed jobs from academia to industry, and probably now makes two to three times as much as me...
- danssig 16y agoThen you shouldn't feel bad. She was leaving money on the table that she needed. Your conversation led her to make necessary changes. If you had kept quiet she might still be struggling.