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Anyone notice that it's impossible to browse to a private DNS name in the new Firefox for Android? It's because of DoH, but there seems to be no way to disable

Anyone notice that it's impossible to browse to a private DNS name in the new Firefox for Android? It's because of DoH, but there seems to be no way to disable it on Android. The entire 'Network Settings' tab seems to be missing from the settings page. Even worse, it then submits the entire URL to the default search engine, even if you manually input it starting with scheme:// and everything. I worked around the first part by blocking 1.1.1.1 at my router, but there are still some major annoyances. First, one has to enter the scheme:// portion to even attempt DNS lookup (as opposed to search engine). In previous versions, adding a trailing slash to the hostname was sufficient. And again, even with the full URL it will send the whole thing to the search engine if the hostname lookup fails. While debugging this I un-disabled the Chrome app for the first time in 3 years and it doesn't seem to have any of these braindead issues. Maybe it's time I consider if I'd rather just deal with the ads.

urineaut 6y ago
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-dns-over-https https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-dns-over-https about:config works on the mobile variants, too. Granted, it is not the best UX, but it works for now. It still seems strange to me that browsers overrule the OS' and thus the user's global preferences.
- thrtythreeforty 6y ago
  Unfortunately about:config no longer works in the most recent version of mobile Firefox. It is unclear what the rationale was for hiding it, although apparently in the next release it will be accessible again.
- boring_twenties 6y ago
  about:config is gone from the Android version. edit: However, your link was still indirectly quite helpful. A couple of hops away, I found https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/canary-domain-use-application-dnsnet https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/canary-domain-use-appli... which explains a better way to handle this at the network level, than blocking 1.1.1.1.
  - Anon1096 6y ago
    I just went to about:config on Firefox Nightly for Android, so no, you're incorrect and it's still there.
    - boring_twenties 6y ago
      No, you're incorrect. It might be in Nightly but it's not in the normal stable version.
- m-p-3 6y ago
  About:config is currently disabled on Firefox (Fenix) Stable for some unclear reasons. I'm currently on beta because of it, but frankly I'd prefer to stay on stable..
xg15 6y ago
> Anyone notice that it's impossible to browse to a private DNS name in the new Firefox for Android? This is odd. Even with DoH enabled, shouldn't Firefox fall back to the OS resolver if a domain doesn't resolve via DoH? Or was this an actual split-horizon situation, where the private domain did resolve on the internet, but to a different IP? ( see https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/dns-over-https-doh-faqs#w_how-does-firefox-handle-split-horizon-dns https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/dns-over-https-doh-faqs... )
- boring_twenties 6y ago
  Nope, this was a totally private name with a fake TLD that could not possibly resolve on the Internet. If that article is supposed to apply to the Android version of Firefox, then the version I tried did not perform as advertised.

urineaut 6y ago

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-dns-over-https https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-dns-over-https about:config works on the mobile variants, too. Granted, it is not the best UX, but it works for now. It still seems strange to me that browsers overrule the OS' and thus the user's global preferences.

thrtythreeforty 6y ago
Unfortunately about:config no longer works in the most recent version of mobile Firefox. It is unclear what the rationale was for hiding it, although apparently in the next release it will be accessible again.
boring_twenties 6y ago
about:config is gone from the Android version. edit: However, your link was still indirectly quite helpful. A couple of hops away, I found https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/canary-domain-use-application-dnsnet https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/canary-domain-use-appli... which explains a better way to handle this at the network level, than blocking 1.1.1.1.
- Anon1096 6y ago
  I just went to about:config on Firefox Nightly for Android, so no, you're incorrect and it's still there.
  - boring_twenties 6y ago
    No, you're incorrect. It might be in Nightly but it's not in the normal stable version.
m-p-3 6y ago
About:config is currently disabled on Firefox (Fenix) Stable for some unclear reasons. I'm currently on beta because of it, but frankly I'd prefer to stay on stable..

xg15 6y ago

> Anyone notice that it's impossible to browse to a private DNS name in the new Firefox for Android? This is odd. Even with DoH enabled, shouldn't Firefox fall back to the OS resolver if a domain doesn't resolve via DoH? Or was this an actual split-horizon situation, where the private domain did resolve on the internet, but to a different IP? ( see https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/dns-over-https-doh-faqs#w_how-does-firefox-handle-split-horizon-dns https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/dns-over-https-doh-faqs... )

boring_twenties 6y ago
Nope, this was a totally private name with a fake TLD that could not possibly resolve on the Internet. If that article is supposed to apply to the Android version of Firefox, then the version I tried did not perform as advertised.