3 ms·

This is natural. iPhones have a really long life, and the improvements are marginal. I actually wanted to get off the iOS train, as I hate its restrictions, ye

This is natural. iPhones have a really long life, and the improvements are marginal. I actually wanted to get off the iOS train, as I hate its restrictions, yet I just bought a new iPad, because my other 5 year old iPad Pro and my iPhone 8 are still being updated, and still running fine with no performance issues. Apple's devices age well. And it's why I became their customer, despite not liking their philosophy for iOS, as I refuse to get on the 2-year upgrade treadmill forced by others (e.g Samsung).

pjmlp 6y ago
What upgrade treadmill? Most people use pre-paid phones until they either break down or get stolen. Most non-techies that I know don't even have updates enabled, because they don't want UI to change under their feet (typical users where E icon == Internet).
- bad_user 6y ago
  > "Most people use pre-paid phones until they either break down or get stolen." Reference please. My personal impression is that most people buy subsidized phones, as part of the contract, every 2 years when the renewal is up. If you have better data than my anecdote, I'm all ears. The Android devices that I've had, and that my family has had, stopped receiving major updates, and even security patches, after only 1 year. So first of all, I don't care what other people do, I can't use devices that are no longer upgraded with security patches. Meanwhile iPhone 6s is getting upgraded to iOS 14. Also, low end Androids stop being usable after about 2 years, either because apps become too slow, or because the battery is affected. And even the high end phones have hardware issues much faster than my iPhones. I've had two Galaxy S phones in my household, after 2 years one had a damaged motherboard and the other had a battery dying on us. These devices are designed for obsolescence. And many people are actually spending more money on those lower end Androids than if they got a higher end iPhone and keep it for 6 years. My 3 year old iPhone 8 still has a battery that's in top shape BTW, with no performance issues.

pjmlp 6y ago

What upgrade treadmill? Most people use pre-paid phones until they either break down or get stolen. Most non-techies that I know don't even have updates enabled, because they don't want UI to change under their feet (typical users where E icon == Internet).

bad_user 6y ago
> "Most people use pre-paid phones until they either break down or get stolen." Reference please. My personal impression is that most people buy subsidized phones, as part of the contract, every 2 years when the renewal is up. If you have better data than my anecdote, I'm all ears. The Android devices that I've had, and that my family has had, stopped receiving major updates, and even security patches, after only 1 year. So first of all, I don't care what other people do, I can't use devices that are no longer upgraded with security patches. Meanwhile iPhone 6s is getting upgraded to iOS 14. Also, low end Androids stop being usable after about 2 years, either because apps become too slow, or because the battery is affected. And even the high end phones have hardware issues much faster than my iPhones. I've had two Galaxy S phones in my household, after 2 years one had a damaged motherboard and the other had a battery dying on us. These devices are designed for obsolescence. And many people are actually spending more money on those lower end Androids than if they got a higher end iPhone and keep it for 6 years. My 3 year old iPhone 8 still has a battery that's in top shape BTW, with no performance issues.