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Even if everyone in the world did everything that you're saying here would it be enough to have a positive measurable effect on the total co2 in the atmosphere?

asdfasgasdgasdg 6y ago
If everyone in the world chose fuel efficient vehicles and carpooled or used mass transit appropriately, yes, that would have a measurable long run effect. It wouldn't be enough on its own to completely solve the problem but it would be progress.
- superflit 6y ago
  Then the answer is no. I will not pay more taxes indirectly for feelings
  - CraigJPerry 6y ago
    Yawn. Excusing your abdication of personal duty to future generations through hand-wavey ideology. It’s ok for previous generations to pay for the roads that allow you to travel and sell your wares or skills but a tax on your pollution to stave off mass re-settling of people in your lifetime would violate your sensibilities.
    - superflit 6y ago
      I already paid for the "roads" three times and still paying in taxes on fuel.
  - asdfasgasdgasdg 6y ago
    The answer to what is no? I don't think anyone asked you a question. Many of the most fuel efficient vehicles are relatively cheaper than the less fuel efficient ones. For example, luxury sedans and sports cars tend to be less efficient than economy sedans, but economy sedans are (perhaps obviously from the name) cheaper. So by doing the environmentally efficient thing, you would actually be saving money, not spending more.
    - superflit 6y ago
      You used a question mark can't you see?
      - asdfasgasdgasdg 6y ago
        https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24361000 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24361000 I don't see any question mark, nor any question.
        superflit 6y ago
        You are right I mean to answer to the parent poster. (yes, I can accept I am wrong) :) No hard feelings!
- bigiain 6y ago
  If enough people (not even everyone, just enough that the single digit percent voting majority a lot of politicians have in their electorates looks potentially like it could swing towards environmentalism), it'd send a message with a huge multiplier potential. Individual actions are important, because corporate and government change will not happen from the top down, it _has_ to be pushed from the bottom up.

asdfasgasdgasdg 6y ago

If everyone in the world chose fuel efficient vehicles and carpooled or used mass transit appropriately, yes, that would have a measurable long run effect. It wouldn't be enough on its own to completely solve the problem but it would be progress.

superflit 6y ago
Then the answer is no. I will not pay more taxes indirectly for feelings
- CraigJPerry 6y ago
  Yawn. Excusing your abdication of personal duty to future generations through hand-wavey ideology. It’s ok for previous generations to pay for the roads that allow you to travel and sell your wares or skills but a tax on your pollution to stave off mass re-settling of people in your lifetime would violate your sensibilities.
  - superflit 6y ago
    I already paid for the "roads" three times and still paying in taxes on fuel.
- asdfasgasdgasdg 6y ago
  The answer to what is no? I don't think anyone asked you a question. Many of the most fuel efficient vehicles are relatively cheaper than the less fuel efficient ones. For example, luxury sedans and sports cars tend to be less efficient than economy sedans, but economy sedans are (perhaps obviously from the name) cheaper. So by doing the environmentally efficient thing, you would actually be saving money, not spending more.
  - superflit 6y ago
    You used a question mark can't you see?
    - asdfasgasdgasdg 6y ago
      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24361000 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24361000 I don't see any question mark, nor any question.
      - superflit 6y ago
        You are right I mean to answer to the parent poster. (yes, I can accept I am wrong) :) No hard feelings!
bigiain 6y ago
If enough people (not even everyone, just enough that the single digit percent voting majority a lot of politicians have in their electorates looks potentially like it could swing towards environmentalism), it'd send a message with a huge multiplier potential. Individual actions are important, because corporate and government change will not happen from the top down, it _has_ to be pushed from the bottom up.