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> OSS browser Prob triggered him right there

by esrh 6y ago

cnst 6y ago
You're "almost" right. I think he was way more triggered by "closed-source", however. --- > I instead prefer to join via ssh/tmux (somehow noone ever offers > this), or Collabedit (which at least always works in my OSS > browser without having to install any third-party plugins). Have you tried asking to do it this way instead? > For me, it's a security issue, as you have to install a > third-party closed-source binary in order to join. Could we please avoid the term "closed source"? I disagree deeply with the idea of "open source", so I never use that term or its antonym. What I advocate is "free software", a totally different idea. --- I'm from the OSS camp -- BSD developer -- using a BSD email address to email RMS, so, I've used "OSS" term very intentionally. Obviously, I have tried and succeeded in asking the companies to use the phone and Collabedit. To my surprise, noone ever came prepared with ssh/tmux; I don't think anyone even realises that it's a possibility; when I once offered to provide mosh/tmux myself, I've wasted a bit too much time around the whole setup that I've actually entirely failed the interview itself that time. As for RMS -- I'm not sure if I was the one to tell him about Zoom in 2019-02, but I was left rather disappointed from that conversation -- he didn't have a way to see who I am (he'd have to have someone else vouch for me in person for that?!), he ignored my wake-up call about Zoom taking over the young minds (he requested references for Zoom being an issue -- who else other than RMS cares about these issues so much as to write whole pages about it?!), he didn't offer any concrete solution to the situation that wasn't already obvious, and he schooled me about a term that -- clearly as a BSD developer -- I don't particularly care about. My email chain shows that I've never bothered to reply back -- I had nothing else to say about the matter compared to what's already been said in my initial email. My biggest surprise was that he's just never heard of Zoom, in a year where Zoom IPO'ed (in 2019), and $ZM was already worth 21 billion in 2020-01 even before the whole COVID19 took over later in 2020-03.

> OSS browser Prob triggered him right there

by esrh 6y ago

> OSS browser Prob triggered him right there

cnst 6y ago

You're "almost" right. I think he was way more triggered by "closed-source", however. --- > I instead prefer to join via ssh/tmux (somehow noone ever offers > this), or Collabedit (which at least always works in my OSS > browser without having to install any third-party plugins). Have you tried asking to do it this way instead? > For me, it's a security issue, as you have to install a > third-party closed-source binary in order to join. Could we please avoid the term "closed source"? I disagree deeply with the idea of "open source", so I never use that term or its antonym. What I advocate is "free software", a totally different idea. --- I'm from the OSS camp -- BSD developer -- using a BSD email address to email RMS, so, I've used "OSS" term very intentionally. Obviously, I have tried and succeeded in asking the companies to use the phone and Collabedit. To my surprise, noone ever came prepared with ssh/tmux; I don't think anyone even realises that it's a possibility; when I once offered to provide mosh/tmux myself, I've wasted a bit too much time around the whole setup that I've actually entirely failed the interview itself that time. As for RMS -- I'm not sure if I was the one to tell him about Zoom in 2019-02, but I was left rather disappointed from that conversation -- he didn't have a way to see who I am (he'd have to have someone else vouch for me in person for that?!), he ignored my wake-up call about Zoom taking over the young minds (he requested references for Zoom being an issue -- who else other than RMS cares about these issues so much as to write whole pages about it?!), he didn't offer any concrete solution to the situation that wasn't already obvious, and he schooled me about a term that -- clearly as a BSD developer -- I don't particularly care about. My email chain shows that I've never bothered to reply back -- I had nothing else to say about the matter compared to what's already been said in my initial email. My biggest surprise was that he's just never heard of Zoom, in a year where Zoom IPO'ed (in 2019), and $ZM was already worth 21 billion in 2020-01 even before the whole COVID19 took over later in 2020-03.