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I dunno. Is anything 'bad'? Maybe there's no difference between anything. I feel like we're talking about building materials and someone pipes up to say 'no bui

I dunno. Is anything 'bad'? Maybe there's no difference between anything. I feel like we're talking about building materials and someone pipes up to say 'no building material is bad', which is kind of true, but then we all die because our bridge was built with glass. We do have to be discerning, and that does involve real criticism of language design and choice.

flatline 6y ago
There is nothing wrong with glass - just don’t use it to build a bridge! (I don’t disagree with you)
- collyw 6y ago
  Meh, google fibreglass bridge.
collyw 6y ago
The differences between languages / frameworks is probably overstated. I like Python and Django and dislike JavaScript. I can still solve problems in both, but I can make it more cleanly and elegantly in the former. Maybe I just need to do more JavaScript, but there definitely appears to be more warts in JS than Python.
- giantDinosaur 6y ago
  I'm speaking from personal experience: due to hiring freezes I had to deliver significantly more by myself for clients than expected, and the only way I was able to do it effectively solo was to use languages like Elm instead of JS, to guarantee I wasn't making certain time consuming errors that frankly weren't really acceptable to make given the constraints. It taught me, concretely, that there can indeed be massive differences between languages and paradigms, and that choice can make or break you in several different ways. Basically, this has ensured that I do not accept truisms about how everything is kinda similar - it isn't, and that has real world consequences. In the case of OOP it's generally the consequence of boring you out of existence since it is so inextricably linked to Java at this point. I'll grant you that you can solve problems with any language, though. ;-)

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I dunno. Is anything 'bad'? Maybe there's no difference between anything. I feel like we're talking about building materials and someone pipes up to say 'no bui

by giantDinosaur 6y ago

flatline 6y ago
There is nothing wrong with glass - just don’t use it to build a bridge! (I don’t disagree with you)
- collyw 6y ago
  Meh, google fibreglass bridge.
collyw 6y ago
The differences between languages / frameworks is probably overstated. I like Python and Django and dislike JavaScript. I can still solve problems in both, but I can make it more cleanly and elegantly in the former. Maybe I just need to do more JavaScript, but there definitely appears to be more warts in JS than Python.
- giantDinosaur 6y ago
  I'm speaking from personal experience: due to hiring freezes I had to deliver significantly more by myself for clients than expected, and the only way I was able to do it effectively solo was to use languages like Elm instead of JS, to guarantee I wasn't making certain time consuming errors that frankly weren't really acceptable to make given the constraints. It taught me, concretely, that there can indeed be massive differences between languages and paradigms, and that choice can make or break you in several different ways. Basically, this has ensured that I do not accept truisms about how everything is kinda similar - it isn't, and that has real world consequences. In the case of OOP it's generally the consequence of boring you out of existence since it is so inextricably linked to Java at this point. I'll grant you that you can solve problems with any language, though. ;-)