Whenever "Clojure startup time" comes up, people are quick to point to one thing: either it's the JVM "bloat," or that it's nothing to do with the JVM and is ac

Whenever "Clojure startup time" comes up, people are quick to point to one thing: either it's the JVM "bloat," or that it's nothing to do with the JVM and is actually all Clojure. Here's a pretty good (if a bit outdated) analysis on Clojure startup time: http://clojure-goes-fast.com/blog/clojures-slow-start/ http://clojure-goes-fast.com/blog/clojures-slow-start/ The question is, could Clojure be rewritten in a way that loads significantly faster with the same behavior on the JVM? I'm not sure. And especially on big projects, the lack of DCE on the JVM can lead to loading a ton of useless code that significantly impacts startup time outside of the Clojure language.