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I think it's corruption too, but I have to roll my eyes at "If this happened in the UK..." The police, and city councils, in the UK have tacitly permitted, for

I think it's corruption too, but I have to roll my eyes at "If this happened in the UK..." The police, and city councils, in the UK have tacitly permitted, for decades, systematic child rape as seen in the Rotterham grooming scandal [1] and numerous others throughout the country. How can you suggest that cops wouldn't look the other way for minor infractions when there are countless examples of them ignoring obscene and severe crimes of the worst sort against the most vulnerable? I don't want this to come off as a "my country is better than yours" but at the same time, I don't think using the UK police as an example of anything to aspire to is a good idea. 1 -https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_explo...

crispyporkbites 6y ago
That’s absolute bollocks. The uk police has oversight from the IOPC and you can read all about the ongoing conduct investigation for that cherry picked example here https://policeconduct.gov.uk/news/independent-investigation-under-way-relating-gmp%E2%80%99s-operation-augusta https://policeconduct.gov.uk/news/independent-investigation-...
- ALittleLight 6y ago
  Cherry picked? The "see also" section lists another 6 "grooming gang" scandals across the country and I have no reason to think that's comprehensive. UK police permitting the organized rape of children seems the norm rather than the exception from what I can tell. The fact that there is an investigation decades after the fact doesn't really negate what I've written. My point isn't really about the grooming gang scandals though. My point is: UK police look the other way for the crime of child rape, why should I believe they don't look the other way for minor infractions?
jeffbee 6y ago
How can a city that small be that fucked up?
Thorentis 6y ago
> "The failure to address the abuse was attributed to ... fear that the perpetrators' ethnicity would trigger allegations of racism and damage community relations" Defund the police for being too worried about racism to do their job. Wait ... what?
helsinkiandrew 6y ago
Are you saying these acts were encouraged by police unions and widely supported by police and their families nationwide and that it was widely reported about, known about and continued to take place? When it was widely reported in the press, the public were disgusted and the government took action. I’m not saying that the UK police are perfect, or the UK is better than the US. Just that this kind of systematic, widespread behaviour that many/most people find unacceptable would be stopped.

crispyporkbites 6y ago

That’s absolute bollocks. The uk police has oversight from the IOPC and you can read all about the ongoing conduct investigation for that cherry picked example here https://policeconduct.gov.uk/news/independent-investigation-under-way-relating-gmp%E2%80%99s-operation-augusta https://policeconduct.gov.uk/news/independent-investigation-...

ALittleLight 6y ago
Cherry picked? The "see also" section lists another 6 "grooming gang" scandals across the country and I have no reason to think that's comprehensive. UK police permitting the organized rape of children seems the norm rather than the exception from what I can tell. The fact that there is an investigation decades after the fact doesn't really negate what I've written. My point isn't really about the grooming gang scandals though. My point is: UK police look the other way for the crime of child rape, why should I believe they don't look the other way for minor infractions?

jeffbee 6y ago

How can a city that small be that fucked up?

Thorentis 6y ago

> "The failure to address the abuse was attributed to ... fear that the perpetrators' ethnicity would trigger allegations of racism and damage community relations" Defund the police for being too worried about racism to do their job. Wait ... what?

helsinkiandrew 6y ago

Are you saying these acts were encouraged by police unions and widely supported by police and their families nationwide and that it was widely reported about, known about and continued to take place? When it was widely reported in the press, the public were disgusted and the government took action. I’m not saying that the UK police are perfect, or the UK is better than the US. Just that this kind of systematic, widespread behaviour that many/most people find unacceptable would be stopped.