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You said >Since then kid themselves also had an ambulance ride (seizure), and that too was "out of networking" in spite of being the only ambulance provider av

You said >Since then kid themselves also had an ambulance ride (seizure), and that too was "out of networking" in spite of being the only ambulance provider available within 15+ minutes. That's the illegal part.

Someone1234 6y ago
If you say so. The $1,500+ ambulance bill still existed, I still paid it, and my kid wasn't even born until five+ years after the ACA came into force. The insurance company was "nice" enough to let me count it towards my kid's deductible for that year, but I paid every cent.
- learc83 6y ago
  People will gladly collect money they aren't legally owed. In this case, unless there is more to the story, you shouldn't have paid it.
  - HarryHirsch 6y ago
    In normal countries you don't have that kind of criminogenic environment. Also, do stop the victim blaming.
    - learc83 6y ago
      >In normal countries you don't have that kind of criminogenic environment. Also, do stop the victim blaming. Stop using "victim blaming" as a way to shut down discourse. In every country in the world people run scams. Universal healthcare would make these particular kinds of scams a lot harder, but I guarantee you, you could still find this kind of anecdotal evidence of criminal behavior relating to healthcare.
surfmike 6y ago
I’ve had that experience too. What makes you think it’s illegal?
- learc83 6y ago
  For emergency treatments, insurance companies are required by the ACA to pay the out of network provider, but charge you as if you are using an in network provider. It's possible for the out of network provider to then bill separately from your insurance if they charge more than what your insurance pays out of network providers, but there's no way that's what happened here because $1500 after the out of network fee from the insurance company is far too high for an ambulance trip.
  - surfmike 6y ago
    I see. Any parts of the law I can cite if I complain? At least in my case and OPs it doesn’t seem that the law is being followed in practice.

Someone1234 6y ago

If you say so. The $1,500+ ambulance bill still existed, I still paid it, and my kid wasn't even born until five+ years after the ACA came into force. The insurance company was "nice" enough to let me count it towards my kid's deductible for that year, but I paid every cent.

learc83 6y ago
People will gladly collect money they aren't legally owed. In this case, unless there is more to the story, you shouldn't have paid it.
- HarryHirsch 6y ago
  In normal countries you don't have that kind of criminogenic environment. Also, do stop the victim blaming.
  - learc83 6y ago
    >In normal countries you don't have that kind of criminogenic environment. Also, do stop the victim blaming. Stop using "victim blaming" as a way to shut down discourse. In every country in the world people run scams. Universal healthcare would make these particular kinds of scams a lot harder, but I guarantee you, you could still find this kind of anecdotal evidence of criminal behavior relating to healthcare.

surfmike 6y ago

I’ve had that experience too. What makes you think it’s illegal?

learc83 6y ago
For emergency treatments, insurance companies are required by the ACA to pay the out of network provider, but charge you as if you are using an in network provider. It's possible for the out of network provider to then bill separately from your insurance if they charge more than what your insurance pays out of network providers, but there's no way that's what happened here because $1500 after the out of network fee from the insurance company is far too high for an ambulance trip.
- surfmike 6y ago
  I see. Any parts of the law I can cite if I complain? At least in my case and OPs it doesn’t seem that the law is being followed in practice.