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What could you possibly vote for on the ballot to fix this.

abootstrapper 6y ago
You could vote for reps that believe in universal healthcare or at least support ACA. Those reps will overwhelmingly be democrats. So vote D down the ballet.
- kaesar14 6y ago
  I live in Brooklyn. What now.
  - dbbk 6y ago
    You can still volunteer to help drive the vote in swing states! https://votesaveamerica.com/adopt-a-state/ https://votesaveamerica.com/adopt-a-state/
    - kaesar14 6y ago
      There are very few people in the political system even in the Democratic Party that want to fix this. Healthcare companies and insurance providers are big donors to many people on that side of the aisle. Bernie was the best chance of that this year, but instead we arrived at an openly corporatist candidate who is vehemently against any real reform of the medical system. Admire your optimism though.
      - dbbk 6y ago
        Passing any change in the US healthcare system requires consensus across the House, the Senate, and the Executive Branch, so it is by no means a one-person job. Bernie favoured the radical overhaul it frankly needs. But if you can't get that, any progress is still progress.
        sio8ohPi 6y ago
        California has a Democratic governor and Democratic super-majorities in both the state assembly and senate. Even with total control in the state, they won't go after something as uniformly reviled as balance billing: https://stateofreform.com/news/california/2019/07/californias-surprise-billing-legislation-stalled-for-the-year/ https://stateofreform.com/news/california/2019/07/california... Why expect more progress at the federal level? Healthcare for the Democrats is like guns for Republicans. It's too useful as a wedge issue they can use to scare voters to the polls. They're more interested in yelling about what the other side will than passing the legislation they promise.
        kaesar14 6y ago
        I couldn't agree with this more. Healthcare costs have increased unabated since the passage of the ACA. Make all the noise you want about Republicans attacking the bill at lower levels of government, it's ultimately the Democrats who didn't pass a public option, and more damningly, it's the Democrats who wouldn't pass Medicare for All. There's no interest in actually solving the issue when they make so much money off the system as it exists.
dbbk 6y ago
For fixing this specific issue, the balance of the Senate is by far the most important thing, even above the Presidency.
- kaesar14 6y ago
  As I said in the other comment, I live in Brooklyn. Even most Democrats are not all that invested in universal healthcare. The Presidential candidate does not believe in Medicare for All.
  - dbbk 6y ago
    This is very true. It probably wouldn't be passed tomorrow if given a chance. However, sentiment on this is swinging very rapidly. It was a fringe idea in 2016, and in 2020 it was a central pillar of many (if not a majority) of the Democratic candidates in 2020. Because people campaigned for it, made the case for it, and built coalitions on their side. Politics is a marathon not a sprint. It may not happen in 2020, but it's certainly closer to reality than it has ever been.
- exolymph 6y ago
  The Senate isn't gonna do shit either.
  - kaesar14 6y ago
    Haha, as if the Senate going blue would change this headline. The Democrats had 60/59 Senators 10 years ago and passed a disgusting reform that's ultimately not done anything about healthcare costs, and allowed those who benefit from the system to reap in even more money.

You could vote for reps that believe in universal healthcare or at least support ACA. Those reps will overwhelmingly be democrats. So vote D down the ballet.

kaesar14 6y ago
I live in Brooklyn. What now.
- dbbk 6y ago
  You can still volunteer to help drive the vote in swing states! https://votesaveamerica.com/adopt-a-state/ https://votesaveamerica.com/adopt-a-state/
  - kaesar14 6y ago
    There are very few people in the political system even in the Democratic Party that want to fix this. Healthcare companies and insurance providers are big donors to many people on that side of the aisle. Bernie was the best chance of that this year, but instead we arrived at an openly corporatist candidate who is vehemently against any real reform of the medical system. Admire your optimism though.
    - dbbk 6y ago
      Passing any change in the US healthcare system requires consensus across the House, the Senate, and the Executive Branch, so it is by no means a one-person job. Bernie favoured the radical overhaul it frankly needs. But if you can't get that, any progress is still progress.
      - sio8ohPi 6y ago
        California has a Democratic governor and Democratic super-majorities in both the state assembly and senate. Even with total control in the state, they won't go after something as uniformly reviled as balance billing: https://stateofreform.com/news/california/2019/07/californias-surprise-billing-legislation-stalled-for-the-year/ https://stateofreform.com/news/california/2019/07/california... Why expect more progress at the federal level? Healthcare for the Democrats is like guns for Republicans. It's too useful as a wedge issue they can use to scare voters to the polls. They're more interested in yelling about what the other side will than passing the legislation they promise.
        kaesar14 6y ago
        I couldn't agree with this more. Healthcare costs have increased unabated since the passage of the ACA. Make all the noise you want about Republicans attacking the bill at lower levels of government, it's ultimately the Democrats who didn't pass a public option, and more damningly, it's the Democrats who wouldn't pass Medicare for All. There's no interest in actually solving the issue when they make so much money off the system as it exists.

dbbk 6y ago

For fixing this specific issue, the balance of the Senate is by far the most important thing, even above the Presidency.

kaesar14 6y ago
As I said in the other comment, I live in Brooklyn. Even most Democrats are not all that invested in universal healthcare. The Presidential candidate does not believe in Medicare for All.
- dbbk 6y ago
  This is very true. It probably wouldn't be passed tomorrow if given a chance. However, sentiment on this is swinging very rapidly. It was a fringe idea in 2016, and in 2020 it was a central pillar of many (if not a majority) of the Democratic candidates in 2020. Because people campaigned for it, made the case for it, and built coalitions on their side. Politics is a marathon not a sprint. It may not happen in 2020, but it's certainly closer to reality than it has ever been.
exolymph 6y ago
The Senate isn't gonna do shit either.
- kaesar14 6y ago
  Haha, as if the Senate going blue would change this headline. The Democrats had 60/59 Senators 10 years ago and passed a disgusting reform that's ultimately not done anything about healthcare costs, and allowed those who benefit from the system to reap in even more money.