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There was reasonable reason to believe Berezovsky was responsible for the Litvinenko poisoning; it's not inconceivable something like that is going on here with

There was reasonable reason to believe Berezovsky was responsible for the Litvinenko poisoning; it's not inconceivable something like that is going on here with some other oligarch Nalvany pissed off; he is a corruption reformer more than anything else. Since the BBC is a propaganda organ rather than a news service, they are singularly unlikely to present us with any of the other potential candidates, but I could probably think of a few that Nalvany might have annoyed. It's also kind of weird they'd use such an apparently ineffective poison when prussic acid or ricin (or car accidents) would do the work rather more reliably. Novichunk didn't work on the Skripals either. Where are the Skripals anyway? Whatever happened: one thing is for certain: Western media, the BBC in particular is an enormous basket of fail in reporting on anything out of Russia. No shortage of numskulls who have never actually visited the place or talked to any of its people who seem really sure of themselves though.

lightgreen 6y ago
> There was reasonable reason to believe Berezovsky was responsible for the Litvinenko poisoning No there were no reasons to believe Berezovsky poisoned Litvinenko. Litvinenko was the one who revealed attempt to kill Berezovsky. Berezovsky and Litvinenko worked together against Putin. There was no motive for Berezovsky to kill Litvinenko. In addition to that: Berezovsky was far less powerful when Litvinenko was poisoned. Obtaining polonium was not trivial for Berezovsky. And finally, UK police found who poisoned Litvinenko, it was Andrei Lugovoi who is currently a member of parliament in Russia. There are no connections between Lugovoi and Berezovski, but obviuosly there are connections between Lugovoi and Russian government. In fact, Lugovoi was given a medal for "serving the fatherland" some time after the poisoning. No, Berezovsky did not poison Litvinenko, and you are spreading conspiracy theories.
- scottlocklin 6y ago
  Yeah thanks a lot for the completely citation and content free comment, Mr 77th brigade or whoever you are. The evidence: Litvinenko and Berezovsky had a falling out, and Litvineko's newest scheme was to run blackmail on various russian oligarchs, possibly including Berezovsky[0]. Berezovsky was no angel and is well, nobody ever proved it, but was strongly suspected to have assassinated an unauthorized biographer[1] (whose book "Godfather of the Kremlin" everyone should read to understand recent Russian history). Lots of people besides me have suggested as much. [2] Berezovsky certainly attempted to use the Litvineko death to his propaganda advantage; he could as easily have done it himself, or suggested such actions might be useful to some other oligarch in Litvineko's sights. I'm well aware of who British propaganda and Litvinenko blamed: I just don't uncritically accept these assertions. The possibility is certainly there that the standard assertion here is baloney, just as the possibility the Novichok tale is not entirely accurate. Western media blames Putin and "the Russians" for everything from Donald Trump to when the foam goes flat in their coffee; if Russian intelligence were so all fired competent, you'd think they'd have been able to take over America, steal some of its industries or like do some obvious projections of power that I don't need Rachel Maddow tier conspiracy theories to believe. Or at least, you know, conquer Kharkiv or something. [0]https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/dec/03/russia.world https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/dec/03/russia.world [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Klebnikov https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Klebnikov [2] https://original.antiwar.com/justin/2010/12/13/wikileaks-conjures-litvinenkos-ghost-2/ https://original.antiwar.com/justin/2010/12/13/wikileaks-con... http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2006/12/04/alexander-litvinenko-blackmailer-smuggler-gangster-extraordinaire/ http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2006/12/04/alexander-litv...
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lightgreen 6y ago

> There was reasonable reason to believe Berezovsky was responsible for the Litvinenko poisoning No there were no reasons to believe Berezovsky poisoned Litvinenko. Litvinenko was the one who revealed attempt to kill Berezovsky. Berezovsky and Litvinenko worked together against Putin. There was no motive for Berezovsky to kill Litvinenko. In addition to that: Berezovsky was far less powerful when Litvinenko was poisoned. Obtaining polonium was not trivial for Berezovsky. And finally, UK police found who poisoned Litvinenko, it was Andrei Lugovoi who is currently a member of parliament in Russia. There are no connections between Lugovoi and Berezovski, but obviuosly there are connections between Lugovoi and Russian government. In fact, Lugovoi was given a medal for "serving the fatherland" some time after the poisoning. No, Berezovsky did not poison Litvinenko, and you are spreading conspiracy theories.

scottlocklin 6y ago
Yeah thanks a lot for the completely citation and content free comment, Mr 77th brigade or whoever you are. The evidence: Litvinenko and Berezovsky had a falling out, and Litvineko's newest scheme was to run blackmail on various russian oligarchs, possibly including Berezovsky[0]. Berezovsky was no angel and is well, nobody ever proved it, but was strongly suspected to have assassinated an unauthorized biographer[1] (whose book "Godfather of the Kremlin" everyone should read to understand recent Russian history). Lots of people besides me have suggested as much. [2] Berezovsky certainly attempted to use the Litvineko death to his propaganda advantage; he could as easily have done it himself, or suggested such actions might be useful to some other oligarch in Litvineko's sights. I'm well aware of who British propaganda and Litvinenko blamed: I just don't uncritically accept these assertions. The possibility is certainly there that the standard assertion here is baloney, just as the possibility the Novichok tale is not entirely accurate. Western media blames Putin and "the Russians" for everything from Donald Trump to when the foam goes flat in their coffee; if Russian intelligence were so all fired competent, you'd think they'd have been able to take over America, steal some of its industries or like do some obvious projections of power that I don't need Rachel Maddow tier conspiracy theories to believe. Or at least, you know, conquer Kharkiv or something. [0]https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/dec/03/russia.world https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/dec/03/russia.world [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Klebnikov https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Klebnikov [2] https://original.antiwar.com/justin/2010/12/13/wikileaks-conjures-litvinenkos-ghost-2/ https://original.antiwar.com/justin/2010/12/13/wikileaks-con... http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2006/12/04/alexander-litvinenko-blackmailer-smuggler-gangster-extraordinaire/ http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2006/12/04/alexander-litv...
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