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I think this might be related to the Tibetan origin special forces soldier of Indian Army being killed in some recent altercation with PRC on their northern bor

I think this might be related to the Tibetan origin special forces soldier of Indian Army being killed in some recent altercation with PRC on their northern border.[1] I do think India is going on a slippery slope now. With Tiktok, one can even make a case of it being used to manipulate sentiments and being used for propoganda, but that argument can hardly be made for a game like PubG. It also brings into question whether the ruling government can disrupt a business on its whim of the day. Also, as far as I understand India is far more dependent economically on trade with China then China is on India. Do they really want to start a trade war with China? [1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/01/indian-special-forces-soldier-killed-in-skirmish-with-chinese-troops https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/01/indian-special...

zolosa 6y ago
They have already started the trade war.
- actuator 6y ago
  Has PRC also started it? It would be interesting if they go after critical components like semiconductors, pharmaceuticals, machinery etc.
  - Aperocky 6y ago
    Why would PRC start a trade war with anybody when they're all largely customers. China barely imports anything from India so there's not even a place to start.
    - actuator 6y ago
      Not import restrictions, more like export restrictions, just to make the other suffer. Wiki infobox suggests that they just have 3% exports to India, they can choose to take that hit. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_China https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_China
      - Aperocky 6y ago
        Why impose export restriction when the other party is doing it with import restrictions to the same effect
        actuator 6y ago
        Does app ban really have any material impact on citizens? Not having access to medicines or say equipment used in your power plants will.
        magicsmoke 6y ago
        India is imposing import restrictions on things they could make themselves, like software. Export restrictions would comprise things India can't make alternatives for, like electronics and pharmaceutical chemicals. The effect is closer to the US banning export of chips and foundry services to Huawei. Unlike the US's tech export restrictions though, anything China makes India could probably find an alternative supplier for, just at a higher cost and lower volume. It'll still hurt, just not as much as being pressured by the US.
        _jgdh 6y ago
        India's economy won't be affected by the loss of PUBG. But it will without certain critical parts of the manufacturing supply chain. I don't know what those parts are, but the Chinese govt will know. A good example of this in action is banning exports of rare earth metals to Japan in 2010, affecting Japan's electronics industry.
        manojlds 6y ago
        > India's economy won't be affected by the loss of PUBG. It maybe be improved by the loss of PUBG due to the gain in productivity /s
        econcon 6y ago
        There are no jobs for the youth. 13 Cr people who have various degrees are unemployed. More than 1.25 Cr have lost jobs this quarter.
  - rasz 6y ago
    PRC is happy annexing Indian land without open declarations.
eggsnbacon1 6y ago
India and China aren't exactly friends, I think its pretty reasonable to limit business ties of any kind. A sovereign nation has the right to ban any import, are you disputing that?
- closetnerd 6y ago
  I'm struggling to understand the intent of your comment. In no way is it about "not having the right". I took it to mean the implications of a souring relationship - which certainly isn't the "right direction" to see relationships evolve. China and India are economic giants - it'd would be preferable that they not see each other as not friends.
- kelnos 6y ago
  Just because a nation has the right to do something, it doesn't make it a good idea, or even in their best interest to do so.
- elliekelly 6y ago
  Is a video game, or any digital file, "an import" anymore? There's nothing physical to be imported so what the government is really "banning" here is access to information. That makes me a little uncomfortable, especially given India's reason: "they are engaged in activities which is prejudicial to sovereignty and integrity of India, defence of India, security of state and public order". I'm not even sure what that means but I suspect that's intentional. From my reading though it doesn't sound like India is doing this as economic sanctions or for the health/safety/welfare of citizens (which would be the typical reasons for a democracy to ban an import). Instead it seems the government has decided that allowing citizens to access this information presents some sort of national security threat.
- ospider 6y ago
  Wait a minute. What about China banning Facebook and Google? I mean Chinese government may be evil, but let's not keep double standards here.
  - tasogare 6y ago
dydesai 6y ago
The ban is most likely due to chinese encroachment on indian border
addicted 6y ago
The ruling government has destroyed the Indian economy with its arbitrary decisions. And sometimes the get the judiciary to chip in as well. The first real disaster to the Indian economy was the billions in retroactive taxes that were applied to telecoms. And then the attempt made by the government to break through the corporate firewalls and extract that money from foreign parents. That hit FDI immediately. That was followed by demonetization, extremely poor rollout of GST, a terribly executed lockdown and subsequent reopening, and now the arbitrary control over Chinese companies when China is probably the largest private investor in India right now. All these things are hurting India with little benefit to show for, other than jingoistic support for the ruling party. India is yet another example of “<Country> First” parties coming in and taking actions which undermine the absolute fundamentals of what the country is and damaging it and its citizens in so many ways. Make life terrible for your citizens and blame China while looting your citizens left right and center is apparently a winning strategy in multiple countries.
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- pagan42 6y ago
  Please cite your sources, exactly and to the point. Lockdown if executed in any way would have been abused by the people. People went on a rampage in *religious ( Taliban linked)" gatherings, India didn't had much cases but these bunch of people made sure the cases spread. It's the people to he blamed for the lockdown spread
  - connectsnk 6y ago
    Dont know why this is being downvoted. Sounds like a reasonable argument
    - saagarjha 6y ago
      Asking people to cite their sources without presuming good faith is not very welcome here.
t_minus_3 6y ago
India has all the right to protect its economy and people from chinese spying and tech dependency . Is nt that what US is doing with tariffs and bringing back jobs?? "Do they really want to start a trade war with China?" why not?? It already too late to stop china. India needs to protect its borders and economy from chinese incursions
- actuator 6y ago
  It is, but for PRC, US is a major export partner, they can't really cut them off without themselves suffering too. So, US can afford to go on offensive there. Also, US does have technological capability to build the things they import themselves. This might not be that true for India. Related subthread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24355659 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24355659

zolosa 6y ago

They have already started the trade war.

actuator 6y ago
Has PRC also started it? It would be interesting if they go after critical components like semiconductors, pharmaceuticals, machinery etc.
- Aperocky 6y ago
  Why would PRC start a trade war with anybody when they're all largely customers. China barely imports anything from India so there's not even a place to start.
  - actuator 6y ago
    Not import restrictions, more like export restrictions, just to make the other suffer. Wiki infobox suggests that they just have 3% exports to India, they can choose to take that hit. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_China https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_China
    - Aperocky 6y ago
      Why impose export restriction when the other party is doing it with import restrictions to the same effect
      - actuator 6y ago
        Does app ban really have any material impact on citizens? Not having access to medicines or say equipment used in your power plants will.
      - magicsmoke 6y ago
        India is imposing import restrictions on things they could make themselves, like software. Export restrictions would comprise things India can't make alternatives for, like electronics and pharmaceutical chemicals. The effect is closer to the US banning export of chips and foundry services to Huawei. Unlike the US's tech export restrictions though, anything China makes India could probably find an alternative supplier for, just at a higher cost and lower volume. It'll still hurt, just not as much as being pressured by the US.
      - _jgdh 6y ago
        India's economy won't be affected by the loss of PUBG. But it will without certain critical parts of the manufacturing supply chain. I don't know what those parts are, but the Chinese govt will know. A good example of this in action is banning exports of rare earth metals to Japan in 2010, affecting Japan's electronics industry.
        manojlds 6y ago
        > India's economy won't be affected by the loss of PUBG. It maybe be improved by the loss of PUBG due to the gain in productivity /s
        econcon 6y ago
        There are no jobs for the youth. 13 Cr people who have various degrees are unemployed. More than 1.25 Cr have lost jobs this quarter.
- rasz 6y ago
  PRC is happy annexing Indian land without open declarations.

eggsnbacon1 6y ago

India and China aren't exactly friends, I think its pretty reasonable to limit business ties of any kind. A sovereign nation has the right to ban any import, are you disputing that?

closetnerd 6y ago
I'm struggling to understand the intent of your comment. In no way is it about "not having the right". I took it to mean the implications of a souring relationship - which certainly isn't the "right direction" to see relationships evolve. China and India are economic giants - it'd would be preferable that they not see each other as not friends.
kelnos 6y ago
Just because a nation has the right to do something, it doesn't make it a good idea, or even in their best interest to do so.
elliekelly 6y ago
Is a video game, or any digital file, "an import" anymore? There's nothing physical to be imported so what the government is really "banning" here is access to information. That makes me a little uncomfortable, especially given India's reason: "they are engaged in activities which is prejudicial to sovereignty and integrity of India, defence of India, security of state and public order". I'm not even sure what that means but I suspect that's intentional. From my reading though it doesn't sound like India is doing this as economic sanctions or for the health/safety/welfare of citizens (which would be the typical reasons for a democracy to ban an import). Instead it seems the government has decided that allowing citizens to access this information presents some sort of national security threat.
ospider 6y ago
Wait a minute. What about China banning Facebook and Google? I mean Chinese government may be evil, but let's not keep double standards here.
- tasogare 6y ago

dydesai 6y ago

The ban is most likely due to chinese encroachment on indian border

addicted 6y ago

The ruling government has destroyed the Indian economy with its arbitrary decisions. And sometimes the get the judiciary to chip in as well. The first real disaster to the Indian economy was the billions in retroactive taxes that were applied to telecoms. And then the attempt made by the government to break through the corporate firewalls and extract that money from foreign parents. That hit FDI immediately. That was followed by demonetization, extremely poor rollout of GST, a terribly executed lockdown and subsequent reopening, and now the arbitrary control over Chinese companies when China is probably the largest private investor in India right now. All these things are hurting India with little benefit to show for, other than jingoistic support for the ruling party. India is yet another example of “<Country> First” parties coming in and taking actions which undermine the absolute fundamentals of what the country is and damaging it and its citizens in so many ways. Make life terrible for your citizens and blame China while looting your citizens left right and center is apparently a winning strategy in multiple countries.

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pagan42 6y ago
Please cite your sources, exactly and to the point. Lockdown if executed in any way would have been abused by the people. People went on a rampage in *religious ( Taliban linked)" gatherings, India didn't had much cases but these bunch of people made sure the cases spread. It's the people to he blamed for the lockdown spread
- connectsnk 6y ago
  Dont know why this is being downvoted. Sounds like a reasonable argument
  - saagarjha 6y ago
    Asking people to cite their sources without presuming good faith is not very welcome here.

t_minus_3 6y ago

India has all the right to protect its economy and people from chinese spying and tech dependency . Is nt that what US is doing with tariffs and bringing back jobs?? "Do they really want to start a trade war with China?" why not?? It already too late to stop china. India needs to protect its borders and economy from chinese incursions

actuator 6y ago
It is, but for PRC, US is a major export partner, they can't really cut them off without themselves suffering too. So, US can afford to go on offensive there. Also, US does have technological capability to build the things they import themselves. This might not be that true for India. Related subthread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24355659 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24355659