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> NATO has enough commandos to take down Russian political leadership in a single evening. And Russia probably has enough commandos to do the same to NATO lead

by ardy42 6y ago

> NATO has enough commandos to take down Russian political leadership in a single evening. And Russia probably has enough commandos to do the same to NATO leadership as well. Neither side actually does that because it would be a suicide mission that would just result in a war.

baybal2 6y ago
1. Russian leadership would not be able to order that if it will be shot dead. 2. NATO towers over Russia for when it comes to size, and quality of elite infantry forces. 3. The loyalty of Russian military is so low, that the collapse of the military leadership will be near immediate upon news of heads rolling in the Kremlin. Absolutely nobody wants to die for those guys. 4. Even if none of the points above will come to fruition. The attack is guaranteed to deliver big enough shock to the Russian C3 to assure that a followup with conventional forces will succeed. There cannot be a single scenario in which Russia would be able to keep any advantage in force if NATO takes the initiative, and goes on offensive. This a plain statement of the fact that even the USSR's military was acknowledging. I reiterate this for the 100th. Neither China, nor Russia is an impossible to defeat adversary to the NATO. Not only an option for the decisive defeat is still very much on the table for NATO, that can be done as a very much contained, quick, and mess free military operation. A controlled demolition of the regime in few large swoops, over a "whack-a-mole" of conventional C3 suppression campaign.
- ardy42 6y ago
  > 1. Russian leadership would not be able to order that if it will be shot dead. If the political leadership of a nation gets assassinated, I do not think it's reasonable to expect the military leadership to sit on their hands forever, waiting for orders from the dead. And if you want to get down to brass tacks, both NATO and Russia have the military capability to literally exterminate the bulk of each other's populations, and I beleive Russia is known to have automated fail-deadly retaliation systems. > 2. NATO towers over Russia for when it comes to size, and quality of elite infantry forces. Honestly, I would think surprise is more important than anything with such an operation as you propose, because success would mainly depend on attacking a target with military-level force that's completely unprepared for that. > 3. The loyalty of Russian military is do low, that the collapse of the military leadership will be near immediate upon news of heads rolling in the Kremlin. Absolutely nobody wants to die for those guys. Maybe not for those people themselves, but they might be willing to die for the nation that those people lead. I'm sure a scheme to assassinate the entire political leadership of a country might evoke some nationalist feelings.

by ardy42 6y ago

baybal2 6y ago

1. Russian leadership would not be able to order that if it will be shot dead. 2. NATO towers over Russia for when it comes to size, and quality of elite infantry forces. 3. The loyalty of Russian military is so low, that the collapse of the military leadership will be near immediate upon news of heads rolling in the Kremlin. Absolutely nobody wants to die for those guys. 4. Even if none of the points above will come to fruition. The attack is guaranteed to deliver big enough shock to the Russian C3 to assure that a followup with conventional forces will succeed. There cannot be a single scenario in which Russia would be able to keep any advantage in force if NATO takes the initiative, and goes on offensive. This a plain statement of the fact that even the USSR's military was acknowledging. I reiterate this for the 100th. Neither China, nor Russia is an impossible to defeat adversary to the NATO. Not only an option for the decisive defeat is still very much on the table for NATO, that can be done as a very much contained, quick, and mess free military operation. A controlled demolition of the regime in few large swoops, over a "whack-a-mole" of conventional C3 suppression campaign.

ardy42 6y ago
> 1. Russian leadership would not be able to order that if it will be shot dead. If the political leadership of a nation gets assassinated, I do not think it's reasonable to expect the military leadership to sit on their hands forever, waiting for orders from the dead. And if you want to get down to brass tacks, both NATO and Russia have the military capability to literally exterminate the bulk of each other's populations, and I beleive Russia is known to have automated fail-deadly retaliation systems. > 2. NATO towers over Russia for when it comes to size, and quality of elite infantry forces. Honestly, I would think surprise is more important than anything with such an operation as you propose, because success would mainly depend on attacking a target with military-level force that's completely unprepared for that. > 3. The loyalty of Russian military is do low, that the collapse of the military leadership will be near immediate upon news of heads rolling in the Kremlin. Absolutely nobody wants to die for those guys. Maybe not for those people themselves, but they might be willing to die for the nation that those people lead. I'm sure a scheme to assassinate the entire political leadership of a country might evoke some nationalist feelings.