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It is remarkable that Germans for the most part are unwilling to look for signs of corruption in their government. I recall the conversations that I've had with

by osipov 6y ago

It is remarkable that Germans for the most part are unwilling to look for signs of corruption in their government. I recall the conversations that I've had with regular German working stiffs around 2012-2014, chatting about the new Berlin Airport and how that showed symptoms of government corruption. The good folks of Germany started admitting to the possibility of corruption only when the media in Germany began to investigate the situation and uncover problems.

lazyjones 6y ago
Germany is as corrupt as European countries get. Look at their slow reaction to the cum ex scandal (they delayed closing the loophole for years, causing tens of billions in damage to the tax payers), or the recently uncovered massive investing in Wirecard by BaFin employees who were supposed to make sure Wirecard isn't a fraud. https://www.faz.net/aktuell/finanzen/bafin-mitarbeiter-handelten-2020-verstaerkt-mit-wirecard-aktien-16904151.html https://www.faz.net/aktuell/finanzen/bafin-mitarbeiter-hande...
odiroot 6y ago
Brandenburg airport, Wirecard, gas deals with Russia, diesel emissions scandal and probably much more of these high-profile cases I cannot even recall now. Indeed, there have to be systemic issues.
- m12k 6y ago
  Da, comrade - it is very important that we discuss all these German issues in a comment section about a news article about the poisoning of a critic of the Russian regime.
  - ardy42 6y ago
    > Da, comrade - it is very important that we discuss all these German issues in a comment section about a news article about the poisoning of a critic of the Russian regime. Very important, yes. Also, have you heard about the poor treatment of Blacks in the Amerika? I recently found this interesting article on the subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes
- msla 6y ago
  Some things don't change: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes > use of phrases like these, exemplifying the tu quoque logical fallacy,[13][9] was an attempt to deflect criticism of the Soviet Union by referring to racial discrimination and lynching in the United States. [snip] Former Czech president and writer Václav Havel placed the phrase among "commonly canonized demagogical tricks".[7] The Economist described it as a form of whataboutism that grew ubiquitous after the dissolution of the Soviet Union.[5] The book Exit from Communism by author Stephen Richards Graubard wrote that it symbolized a divorce from reality.[8]

by osipov 6y ago

lazyjones 6y ago

Germany is as corrupt as European countries get. Look at their slow reaction to the cum ex scandal (they delayed closing the loophole for years, causing tens of billions in damage to the tax payers), or the recently uncovered massive investing in Wirecard by BaFin employees who were supposed to make sure Wirecard isn't a fraud. https://www.faz.net/aktuell/finanzen/bafin-mitarbeiter-handelten-2020-verstaerkt-mit-wirecard-aktien-16904151.html https://www.faz.net/aktuell/finanzen/bafin-mitarbeiter-hande...

odiroot 6y ago

Brandenburg airport, Wirecard, gas deals with Russia, diesel emissions scandal and probably much more of these high-profile cases I cannot even recall now. Indeed, there have to be systemic issues.

m12k 6y ago
Da, comrade - it is very important that we discuss all these German issues in a comment section about a news article about the poisoning of a critic of the Russian regime.
- ardy42 6y ago
  > Da, comrade - it is very important that we discuss all these German issues in a comment section about a news article about the poisoning of a critic of the Russian regime. Very important, yes. Also, have you heard about the poor treatment of Blacks in the Amerika? I recently found this interesting article on the subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes
msla 6y ago
Some things don't change: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes > use of phrases like these, exemplifying the tu quoque logical fallacy,[13][9] was an attempt to deflect criticism of the Soviet Union by referring to racial discrimination and lynching in the United States. [snip] Former Czech president and writer Václav Havel placed the phrase among "commonly canonized demagogical tricks".[7] The Economist described it as a form of whataboutism that grew ubiquitous after the dissolution of the Soviet Union.[5] The book Exit from Communism by author Stephen Richards Graubard wrote that it symbolized a divorce from reality.[8]