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Instead, they just plant military bases in the country and set up a puppet government that supports the US. Amounts to the same thing.

by newen 6y ago

Retric 6y ago
In the short term perhaps. However, I doubt many people consider Germany a puppet of the US. Japan for example has the 5th most powerful military in the world. ‘Amusingly,‘ Cuba has a US base and a rather antagonistic relationship. However, long term many countries like US bases because money flows in one direction from that base into the local economy. It’s the same reason so many bases exist across the US.
- martin_a 6y ago
  > However, I doubt many people consider Germany a puppet of the US. As a sidenote from a German: This is somewhat delicate and often talked about in German population. Not really happening in media, but I think everybody has his stance on this and some pros or cons. Anyway it's not easy for Germans.
  - newen 6y ago
    Yes, it's similar to the situations in Japan and South Korea where the US has what are essentially US supporting puppet governments in power. It's impossible for these countries to kick the US military bases out of their lands.
    - selimthegrim 6y ago
      The Philippines did.
      - newen 6y ago
        Because a volcano destroyed the bases. Not because the Philippines forced the US to leave. Edit: And so what if bases are easy to rebuild? I'm talking about the politics of the matter. The US didn't want to spend money on rebuilding the base, so they didn't. The decision had nothing to do with the Philippines government. Which is my whole point. The Philippines government couldn't have kicked the US bases out if they wanted to.
        valuearb 6y ago
        Bases are easy to rebuild.
  - sam_lowry_ 6y ago
    Charles de Gaule forced US troops out some 50+ years ago, so they settled mostly in Germany. In the coming years, US will relocate 12,000 troops from Germany to Belgium, because Germany wants them out. Now Belgium has the NATO HQ, SHAPE and the 12,000 extra US solders, in addition to many thousands already present on its soil.

Instead, they just plant military bases in the country and set up a puppet government that supports the US. Amounts to the same thing.

by newen 6y ago

Instead, they just plant military bases in the country and set up a puppet government that supports the US. Amounts to the same thing.

Retric 6y ago

In the short term perhaps. However, I doubt many people consider Germany a puppet of the US. Japan for example has the 5th most powerful military in the world. ‘Amusingly,‘ Cuba has a US base and a rather antagonistic relationship. However, long term many countries like US bases because money flows in one direction from that base into the local economy. It’s the same reason so many bases exist across the US.

martin_a 6y ago
> However, I doubt many people consider Germany a puppet of the US. As a sidenote from a German: This is somewhat delicate and often talked about in German population. Not really happening in media, but I think everybody has his stance on this and some pros or cons. Anyway it's not easy for Germans.
- newen 6y ago
  Yes, it's similar to the situations in Japan and South Korea where the US has what are essentially US supporting puppet governments in power. It's impossible for these countries to kick the US military bases out of their lands.
  - selimthegrim 6y ago
    The Philippines did.
    - newen 6y ago
      Because a volcano destroyed the bases. Not because the Philippines forced the US to leave. Edit: And so what if bases are easy to rebuild? I'm talking about the politics of the matter. The US didn't want to spend money on rebuilding the base, so they didn't. The decision had nothing to do with the Philippines government. Which is my whole point. The Philippines government couldn't have kicked the US bases out if they wanted to.
      - valuearb 6y ago
        Bases are easy to rebuild.
- sam_lowry_ 6y ago
  Charles de Gaule forced US troops out some 50+ years ago, so they settled mostly in Germany. In the coming years, US will relocate 12,000 troops from Germany to Belgium, because Germany wants them out. Now Belgium has the NATO HQ, SHAPE and the 12,000 extra US solders, in addition to many thousands already present on its soil.