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You seem to think I'm defending modern psychiatry, I'm not. I'm merely saying that positivism is what brought us here, and certainly isn't the way to bring us a

You seem to think I'm defending modern psychiatry, I'm not. I'm merely saying that positivism is what brought us here, and certainly isn't the way to bring us anywhere better. You brought very little in defense of positivism, so I'm at a lose as to what I can respond with there. What I will say is that, by relying on a macroscopic outcome and declaring that any increase must be caused by the psychiatric field, you ignore the very obvious fact, something positivism constantly struggles with, that the world has changed since the 60's. Is the rise of social media the fault of psychiatry? Is underemployment? How about Fortress Europe? By most microscopic measurements, clinical psychology is a cure that does help the majority of patients. Both in the long-term and short-term.

konjin 6y ago
>By most microscopic measurements, clinical psychology is a cure that does help the majority of patients. Both in the long-term and short-term. That is where we disagree. Clinical psychology makes people feel better about themselves in the short term, long term there is a distinct lack of evidence of positive outcomes. And a lot of unrepeatable experiments that show positive trends which disappear when looked at more closely.