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Perhaps the pakistani people should be left to decide what's immoral and what's not?
by thefounder 6y ago
Perhaps the pakistani people should be left to decide what's immoral and what's not?
- iso8859-1 6y agoThey have, it is a representative democracy.
- ooobit2 6y agoWestern people are usually surprised to find out that people actually have freedoms outside of America and Europe. They just often choose to sacrifice more egregious ones for communal good than not.
- frequentnapper 6y agoYes, like the freedom to murder someone in broad daylight without the police doing anything for "insulting" Mohammed. No thanks!
- thefz 6y agoLike what, the freedom to install the software you want on your device?
- acephal 6y agoThis entire thread is completely toxic and predictably so, the fact it hasn't been flagged yet is telling
- thefounder 6y agoThe freedom to harm others(i.e women) or restrict other people's freedoms(i.e what to install on my device, what books to read etc) is not really freedom
- implements 6y agoAre Pakistani human rights different from the universal kind? My viewpoint is that people should have freedom of religious conscience, and with that a large degree of moral relativism with certain bounds. Given that, is it appropriate that a country interferes with the expressed sexuality of freely consenting adults? I don’t think so.
- cageface 6y agoWe should not conflate sexual freedom in general with the very specific kind promoted by Tinder. There are many different ways you could design the UX of a dating app and in my opinion the Tinder approach has some very serious downsides. Dating online doesn't necessarily have to be about promoting a lot of shallow and superficial interactions.
- thefounder 6y agoOk, who are you to judge what other people should use for dating? Make your "moral" dating app and compete on merits.
- cageface 6y agoI’m not advocating banning the app but I do think some of the criticisms of it are entirely justified. We’ve seen in the last few years how we all can be affected by technologies that we don’t personally use ourselves so we’re entitled to an opinion.
- cageface 6y agoAlso I'm not saying Tinder is immoral. People can hook up all they want as far as I'm concerned. It's more the kind of interaction that the UX encourages that I think could be improved.
- thefounder 6y agoAs I said...make your own app that encourages a different kind of interactions. Have you considered that people use Tinder because of the kind of interactions it encourages? It's not like there are not other apps with different goals/ux. I believe it's a tirany to use your own morality to restrict other people's behaviour. As long as nobody gets hurt people should be free to spend their time/live as they see fit.
- ooobit2 6y agoI think your opinion is irrelevant and based in ignorance of Islam and the values that a predominately Islamic society holds for its citizens. These are not easy or often flippant decisions made and/or accepted by people. But part of listening means accepting where you have a right to form opinions, to have them heard, and to feel entitled to them being relevant. This is not listening. This is you asserting a colonialist's supremacy on a culture that does not agree with your ethic. This same line of thinking is what led to the British invasions of Central Asia and Africa, that Indians were barbaric and Brits would bring the education and civil discipline to their land and improve their lives. Well, what good have yours and their Napoleon complexes left?
- haunter 6y agoThey did https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Pakistani_general_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Pakistani_general_electio...
- sbmthakur 6y agoUnfortunately, the government of Pakistan doesn't feel the same way. https://www.dw.com/en/pakistan-women-tinder/a-54509792 https://www.dw.com/en/pakistan-women-tinder/a-54509792 https://tribune.com.pk/story/2261873/online-dating-catches-on-in-pakistan https://tribune.com.pk/story/2261873/online-dating-catches-o...