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This Dec 2017 nytimes article is a relevant read: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/28/nyregion/new-york-subway-construction-costs.html?referrer=masthead https://
by dnhz 6y ago
This Dec 2017 nytimes article is a relevant read: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/28/nyregion/new-york-subway-construction-costs.html?referrer=masthead https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/28/nyregion/new-york-subway-...
> France’s unions are powerful, but Mr. Probst said they did not control project staffing. Isabelle Brochard of RATP, a state-owned company that operates the Paris Metro and is coordinating the Line 14 project, estimated there were 200 total workers on the job, each earning $60 per hour. The Second Avenue subway project employed about 700 workers, many making double that (although that included health insurance).
It seems like transit bureaucracies in the US don't have the expertise to manage massive construction projects and little incentive to control costs.
I was unable to browse the link because the site is overloaded, but I'm familiar with Alon Levy and his blog. Hopefully the data makes a difference but bureaucrats often to respond that their situation is unique and not comparable to other countries.
- vlovich123 6y agoWouldn't that give foreign companies an advantage in bidding for American contracts?
- dnhz 6y agoWhat do you mean? What would give foreign companies an advantage? If a transit construction project can be done at lower cost, isn't that a good thing, for the local government and for riders? And construction is something that hires local workers anyway.
- brutusborn 6y agoIf the foreign companies can bid lower and with faster schedule, then they have an advantage to win the contracts over US firms
- bobthepanda 6y agoForeign firms do bid, just not with lower costs or faster schedules. Skanska from Sweden is in charge of NYC's East Side Access, which was originally forecasted to be completed in 2007 at a cost of $4B, and has morphed into the world's most expensive per-mile rail project at $12B with a completion date in the 2020s.
- bobthepanda 6y agoConstruction workers are generally hired locally, and I doubt that specialized construction skills would be considered qualifications worthy of priority visas in the US.
- throwaway0a5e 6y agoConstruction is fundamentally a business of optimizing for minimum cost within the law. Taking the foreign companies and making them operate in NYC would get you the same result as the local companies because the root problem is decades old laws that more or less serve to create regulatory capture to benefit the members of various unions and trades organizations.