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Agreed. Been debating switching to Spotify. But not having ads on YouTube has been amazing.

by baskire 6y ago

eru 6y ago
I've used both Spotify and Pandora for a while, and generally found Pandora superior.
d3nj4l 6y ago
YT Music is included in YouTube premium, you don't need to switch to spotify.
- mrweasel 6y ago
  It seems to be the other way around for me. I could not buy Youtube Premium, unless I first signed up for Youtube Music.
- baskire 6y ago
  YouTube music sucks. Now that google play music is canceled. I either continue paying for yt red and stick with the worse music platform. I switch to prime music. Or I ditch yt and google music all together and use Spotify. I still don’t get why google deprecated me as a customer. Google’s churn is exhausting. Starting to want the “Microsoft” & “Apple” experience of it just works.
  - Goronmon 6y ago
    I still don’t get why google deprecated me as a customer. Google’s churn is exhausting. I tend to attribute the product "churn" due to how promotions/raises are handled where releasing new products is heavily favored over maintaining existing ones.
  - JeremyNT 6y ago
    > YouTube music sucks. Now that google play music is canceled. I either continue paying for yt red and stick with the worse music platform. I switch to prime music. Or I ditch yt and google music all together and use Spotify. I was worried about this too, but have you tried it lately after doing an import of your Play Music data? I've been a subscriber to Play Music nearly since its inception and none of the functionality I cared about seems to be missing from YT Music in its current form. Indeed there are a couple of YT Music features I am using occasionally (the lyrics for example). I think the impetus here is really just to unify all of their streaming content services under the YT brand, which if anything instills some confidence in me that they won't simply kill it off (Play Music was feeling like abandonware for a long time, being under the YT umbrella with an app under active development seems like an improvement). That said, there are plenty of other ways to get the actual music files. I treat this service as a way to discover playlists and new artists only, and if there's something I want to retain access to I acquire my own copy to ensure I will not lose access to it in the future.
saghm 6y ago
I did make the switch to Spotify (although I don't really watch much youtube, so youtube red wasn't a blocker for me). I haven't been super thrilled with Spotify's ability not to repeat the same songs okay the course of a few days when I listen to it throughout the day while working, but I'm slowly having success getting it to give me more variety. This might just be due to me having a smaller set of music that I'm interested in listening to (classic rock, progressive rock, and some blues) compared to their average user who might be willing to listen to anything popular from the past several decades of music, including new stuff as it comes out.
- baskire 6y ago
  I tried YouTube music. But it’s so repetitive and playlists are just the same songs I’ve listened to recently. I miss google play music and Spotify style discovery. Curious how you found Spotify to compare to YouTube music. As google play music was deprecated.
  - rosywoozlechan 6y ago
    The auto generated lists are repetitive, but you can find any music playlist anyone's ever made on YouTube and those aren't. So instead of looking for a song and hitting play, which will start an autogenerated list based on your youtube likes, look for a playlist that has that song and play that instead. Also the more likes you have the less repetitive it will eventually get, but it's still a bit repetitive for me and I've been using YT Music for over two years now or however long since it's come out.
siquick 6y ago
Please choose Apple Music or Tidal - they pay musicians substantially more than Spotify pay [1] [1]https://images.prismic.io/soundcharts%2F571ff05f-9320-4e26-9235-8d4c4a6628d7_streaming+payouts+table+.png?auto=compress,format&rect=0,0,1454,725&w=1200&h=598 https://images.prismic.io/soundcharts%2F571ff05f-9320-4e26-9...
- didibus 6y ago
  Surprised how much Amazon music pays artists.
- jorvi 6y ago
  Spotify has no option to pay more because the labels eat all their profits. Apple being able to eat that cost because of their other ventures is anti-competitive. Blame the record labels, not Spotify.
- Applejinx 6y ago
  Neither of those are significant for paying musicians, even if they're better than Spotify. This is why things like Patreon and Bandcamp have become so significant: the streaming providers are essentially not able to pay content creators at all, so none of them constitute a business plan for anything but themselves. 'better for the artist than Spotify' is… not a high bar :)
  - siquick 6y ago
    I buy a lot of music from Bandcamp, but its definitely not a suitable service for the vast majority of people.
- josteink 6y ago
  > Please choose Apple Music or Tidal - they pay musicians substantially more than Spotify Funny how you say that when Tidal have been caught faking plays[1] of artists close to Tidal-management, giving more money to them and less to everyone else. But what do you expect by a streaming-platform literally run by “gangster”-rappers? [1] https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/tidal-fake-streams-criminal-investigation-underway-over-potential-data-fraud-in-norway/ https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/tidal-fake-streams-cr...

Agreed. Been debating switching to Spotify. But not having ads on YouTube has been amazing.

eru 6y ago

I've used both Spotify and Pandora for a while, and generally found Pandora superior.

d3nj4l 6y ago

YT Music is included in YouTube premium, you don't need to switch to spotify.

mrweasel 6y ago
It seems to be the other way around for me. I could not buy Youtube Premium, unless I first signed up for Youtube Music.
baskire 6y ago
YouTube music sucks. Now that google play music is canceled. I either continue paying for yt red and stick with the worse music platform. I switch to prime music. Or I ditch yt and google music all together and use Spotify. I still don’t get why google deprecated me as a customer. Google’s churn is exhausting. Starting to want the “Microsoft” & “Apple” experience of it just works.
- Goronmon 6y ago
  I still don’t get why google deprecated me as a customer. Google’s churn is exhausting. I tend to attribute the product "churn" due to how promotions/raises are handled where releasing new products is heavily favored over maintaining existing ones.
- JeremyNT 6y ago
  > YouTube music sucks. Now that google play music is canceled. I either continue paying for yt red and stick with the worse music platform. I switch to prime music. Or I ditch yt and google music all together and use Spotify. I was worried about this too, but have you tried it lately after doing an import of your Play Music data? I've been a subscriber to Play Music nearly since its inception and none of the functionality I cared about seems to be missing from YT Music in its current form. Indeed there are a couple of YT Music features I am using occasionally (the lyrics for example). I think the impetus here is really just to unify all of their streaming content services under the YT brand, which if anything instills some confidence in me that they won't simply kill it off (Play Music was feeling like abandonware for a long time, being under the YT umbrella with an app under active development seems like an improvement). That said, there are plenty of other ways to get the actual music files. I treat this service as a way to discover playlists and new artists only, and if there's something I want to retain access to I acquire my own copy to ensure I will not lose access to it in the future.

saghm 6y ago

I did make the switch to Spotify (although I don't really watch much youtube, so youtube red wasn't a blocker for me). I haven't been super thrilled with Spotify's ability not to repeat the same songs okay the course of a few days when I listen to it throughout the day while working, but I'm slowly having success getting it to give me more variety. This might just be due to me having a smaller set of music that I'm interested in listening to (classic rock, progressive rock, and some blues) compared to their average user who might be willing to listen to anything popular from the past several decades of music, including new stuff as it comes out.

baskire 6y ago
I tried YouTube music. But it’s so repetitive and playlists are just the same songs I’ve listened to recently. I miss google play music and Spotify style discovery. Curious how you found Spotify to compare to YouTube music. As google play music was deprecated.
- rosywoozlechan 6y ago
  The auto generated lists are repetitive, but you can find any music playlist anyone's ever made on YouTube and those aren't. So instead of looking for a song and hitting play, which will start an autogenerated list based on your youtube likes, look for a playlist that has that song and play that instead. Also the more likes you have the less repetitive it will eventually get, but it's still a bit repetitive for me and I've been using YT Music for over two years now or however long since it's come out.

siquick 6y ago

Please choose Apple Music or Tidal - they pay musicians substantially more than Spotify pay [1] [1]https://images.prismic.io/soundcharts%2F571ff05f-9320-4e26-9235-8d4c4a6628d7_streaming+payouts+table+.png?auto=compress,format&rect=0,0,1454,725&w=1200&h=598 https://images.prismic.io/soundcharts%2F571ff05f-9320-4e26-9...

didibus 6y ago
Surprised how much Amazon music pays artists.
jorvi 6y ago
Spotify has no option to pay more because the labels eat all their profits. Apple being able to eat that cost because of their other ventures is anti-competitive. Blame the record labels, not Spotify.
Applejinx 6y ago
Neither of those are significant for paying musicians, even if they're better than Spotify. This is why things like Patreon and Bandcamp have become so significant: the streaming providers are essentially not able to pay content creators at all, so none of them constitute a business plan for anything but themselves. 'better for the artist than Spotify' is… not a high bar :)
- siquick 6y ago
  I buy a lot of music from Bandcamp, but its definitely not a suitable service for the vast majority of people.
josteink 6y ago
> Please choose Apple Music or Tidal - they pay musicians substantially more than Spotify Funny how you say that when Tidal have been caught faking plays[1] of artists close to Tidal-management, giving more money to them and less to everyone else. But what do you expect by a streaming-platform literally run by “gangster”-rappers? [1] https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/tidal-fake-streams-criminal-investigation-underway-over-potential-data-fraud-in-norway/ https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/tidal-fake-streams-cr...