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No. I do not condone violence or murder. I am curious about your criteria though. What’s the differential on “enough murders” to discount the BLM protests vs

No. I do not condone violence or murder. I am curious about your criteria though. What’s the differential on “enough murders” to discount the BLM protests vs the police murders that fuel them? Also, saying that the KKK was “democrat-controlled” makes me think you’re trolling here. It hasn’t been true since the 60s, and using “Democrat” as an adjective instead of “Democratic” is a signal that you’re just repeating Republican talking points. That’s not even delving into what the KKK’s goals or actions were about. What do you think of Kyle Rittenhouse and the president’s support of him?

edbob 6y ago
I don't think I understand what you mean by "discounting" murders. If you mean to "excuse" (i.e, to condone) the murders, then I would say that there is no excuse for murder by either BLM or the police. But you say that don't condone violence, so I'm really not sure what you're asking. If you truly don't condone violence, then I appreciate that immensely. But the majority liberal position seems to firmly excuse the violence, minimizing it and blaming it on others, and your initial post seemed to come out of that position. It still reads like that, since no mention is made of the widespread violence and arson. I also mentioned the National Socialists of the 1920's, as I was comparing the present violence to violent political movements of the past. The KKK hasn't been relevant since the Democrats abandoned it, except for leaders like Robert Byrd who stayed in power as Democrats for decades. I don't feel like the Democrats have changed enough since that time in their methods, only in their stated goals. I don't think it's relevant if this happens to be a Republican talking point. Facts aren't any less true if someone we don't like says them. I also don't know what significance saying Democrat-controlled vs Democratic-controlled has - what am I missing? I don't want to commit to a position on Rittenhouse because I'm sure that we will be much better informed after a trial. From the initial video, it looks like he was running away as fast as he could but was shot at, which would make his actions self-defense in a lot of jurisdictions. Some states have stand your ground laws, but many require you to try to flee and he clearly did so. But there are all sorts of details that could change that, like it being illegal for a minor to have a rifle in Wisconsin, and IANAL.

edbob 6y ago

I don't think I understand what you mean by "discounting" murders. If you mean to "excuse" (i.e, to condone) the murders, then I would say that there is no excuse for murder by either BLM or the police. But you say that don't condone violence, so I'm really not sure what you're asking. If you truly don't condone violence, then I appreciate that immensely. But the majority liberal position seems to firmly excuse the violence, minimizing it and blaming it on others, and your initial post seemed to come out of that position. It still reads like that, since no mention is made of the widespread violence and arson. I also mentioned the National Socialists of the 1920's, as I was comparing the present violence to violent political movements of the past. The KKK hasn't been relevant since the Democrats abandoned it, except for leaders like Robert Byrd who stayed in power as Democrats for decades. I don't feel like the Democrats have changed enough since that time in their methods, only in their stated goals. I don't think it's relevant if this happens to be a Republican talking point. Facts aren't any less true if someone we don't like says them. I also don't know what significance saying Democrat-controlled vs Democratic-controlled has - what am I missing? I don't want to commit to a position on Rittenhouse because I'm sure that we will be much better informed after a trial. From the initial video, it looks like he was running away as fast as he could but was shot at, which would make his actions self-defense in a lot of jurisdictions. Some states have stand your ground laws, but many require you to try to flee and he clearly did so. But there are all sorts of details that could change that, like it being illegal for a minor to have a rifle in Wisconsin, and IANAL.