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> Here we have the IGPN, which is "the Police of Police" so when an officer does something wrong there's an inquiry about it. But more importantly, there are sa
by wott 6y ago
> Here we have the IGPN, which is "the Police of Police" so when an officer does something wrong there's an inquiry about it. But more importantly, there are sanctions.
The main role of IGPN is diverting legal action, by burying cases into their administrative enquiries and sanctions proposals. Filing a complaint at IGPN is mostly useless, you'd better file them directly in the regular justice system, otherwise it will almost never end up in the regular justice system because IGPN almost never forwards cases.
Administrative sanctions are laughable. Firstly, as I said, they are not mandatory, they are propositions, it is up to the local superior(s) to decide what they do with it. Secondly, half of them are simple warnings and blames, i.e. completely without effect. Thirdly, most of the sanctions proposals come from internal affairs between constables, the complaints filed by regular citizens are buried.
Also, there is the fundamental problem that IGPN is not an independent entity, but part of the police...
> how infrequent Police murders are
Despite people carrying much much less weapons than in the US, our police are more and more trigger happy, and when they shoot, they shoot to kill (and they get away with it, unless it was first-degree murder). They have no problem emptying a magazine in the back of car drivers, and pretend it was a life-saving reaction to an immediate threat. Take similar situations involving Police and Military: with the former, the assailant will end up with 8 9mm bullets in the body, 3 of them being lethal; with the later the assailant will be controlled (which allows for a trial way better than a Police execution), either with one 5.56mm bullet in the leg or more often without any shooting.
And then there are the "non-lethal" weapons (flashballs and tasers) which were supposed to replace gun use, but that Police now use all the time for nothing, in situations where they would never have used a gun before.
Was it last year that they managed to taze a naked (thus unarmed) man to death in a street?
- jmnicolas 6y ago> They have no problem emptying a magazine in the back of car drivers, and pretend it was a life-saving reaction to an immediate threat. Come on, this would have been the scandal of the decade and I would have heard about it. As long as you're not a yellow vest you don't have much to fear about the French Police ;) > either with one 5.56mm bullet in the leg As a civilian target shooter, I can tell you that shooting a leg is almost impossible for a standard shooter, unless you're very close and the target isn't moving (but then why do you need to shoot him ?). You should never employ a gun with the intent to "just" injure someone. A gun is lethal (even a leg shot can be fatal) most of the time and should be used (or not used) accordingly.