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This is why I'm personally looking at the LG CX 48" - low latency, 120Hz, 4k, wide gamut, HDR.

formerly_proven 6y ago
OLED TVs are in a much better space than PC LCDs, where no really good options exist. Either IPS, which has poor contrast, bleed and doesn't do HDR, or VA, which has good contrast, but also doesn't really do HDR, and VA generally has poor uniformity (nitpick) and viewing angles. Some VA are pretty smeary, but that seems to have cleaned up in the latest generation. TN panels are much better than they used to be in the color department, but it doesn't have the contrast of VA, and even poorer viewing angles than VA. OLED is clearly the way forward - accurate colors, excellent contrast, no bleeding, no uniformity issues, proper HDR, excellent response time. Except OLED doesn't come to PCs.
- Scene_Cast2 6y ago
  Yep, agreed. I mentioned the CX 48 because it's the first one that can somewhat reasonably be used as a monitor. MicroLED is another promising tech that has a lot of OLED upsides, but no burn-in issues.
- namibj 6y ago
  Iiyama's MVA3 displays are, to my knowledge, significantly in front of other LCD styles (e.g. TN, IPS) as far as contrast, especially from an angle, is concerned. Unfortunately my desk's dear centerpiece, https://iiyama.com/gl_en/products/prolite-x4071uhsu-b1/ https://iiyama.com/gl_en/products/prolite-x4071uhsu-b1/ , has been EOL'd about 2 years ago, because I have been unable to find a replacement that's not worse, while staying in the 40~50" range. Any concrete suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
- fomine3 6y ago
  Burning out is still big problem on OLED for PC monitor. PC monitors should be used more years than smartphone and tend to display same content.
  - zmix 6y ago
    Some things could be counter acted with software (make desktop taskbar only visible when mouse reaches bottom of screen, etc.), but I would be interested in some real life data as to how long it would take for even burn out over the whole screen, till it drops as much, that the quality degrades to TFT level. (there is a guy on Youtube who installed an OLED TV as his main monitor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXKhYH3BaIA&t=36s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXKhYH3BaIA&t=36s)
  - account42 6y ago
    I'd be okay buying a new OLED monitor every year if they were available in the format I want (large ultrawide) and with low latency scalers, high refresh reates and without privacy destroying "smart" features plaguing TVs. Anything to get out of the crappy tradeoffs there are with backlit displays.
    - fock 6y ago
      guess we have to boil the ocean a little earlier for your pleasure :)

OLED TVs are in a much better space than PC LCDs, where no really good options exist. Either IPS, which has poor contrast, bleed and doesn't do HDR, or VA, which has good contrast, but also doesn't really do HDR, and VA generally has poor uniformity (nitpick) and viewing angles. Some VA are pretty smeary, but that seems to have cleaned up in the latest generation. TN panels are much better than they used to be in the color department, but it doesn't have the contrast of VA, and even poorer viewing angles than VA. OLED is clearly the way forward - accurate colors, excellent contrast, no bleeding, no uniformity issues, proper HDR, excellent response time. Except OLED doesn't come to PCs.

Scene_Cast2 6y ago
Yep, agreed. I mentioned the CX 48 because it's the first one that can somewhat reasonably be used as a monitor. MicroLED is another promising tech that has a lot of OLED upsides, but no burn-in issues.
namibj 6y ago
Iiyama's MVA3 displays are, to my knowledge, significantly in front of other LCD styles (e.g. TN, IPS) as far as contrast, especially from an angle, is concerned. Unfortunately my desk's dear centerpiece, https://iiyama.com/gl_en/products/prolite-x4071uhsu-b1/ https://iiyama.com/gl_en/products/prolite-x4071uhsu-b1/ , has been EOL'd about 2 years ago, because I have been unable to find a replacement that's not worse, while staying in the 40~50" range. Any concrete suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
fomine3 6y ago
Burning out is still big problem on OLED for PC monitor. PC monitors should be used more years than smartphone and tend to display same content.
- zmix 6y ago
  Some things could be counter acted with software (make desktop taskbar only visible when mouse reaches bottom of screen, etc.), but I would be interested in some real life data as to how long it would take for even burn out over the whole screen, till it drops as much, that the quality degrades to TFT level. (there is a guy on Youtube who installed an OLED TV as his main monitor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXKhYH3BaIA&t=36s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXKhYH3BaIA&t=36s)
- account42 6y ago
  I'd be okay buying a new OLED monitor every year if they were available in the format I want (large ultrawide) and with low latency scalers, high refresh reates and without privacy destroying "smart" features plaguing TVs. Anything to get out of the crappy tradeoffs there are with backlit displays.
  - fock 6y ago
    guess we have to boil the ocean a little earlier for your pleasure :)