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I don't see the point you're trying to make, sorry. My answer was about Police brutality, not privacy.

legerdemain 6y ago
Predictive policing is associated with selective policing, increasing the rate of police encounters for a set of people. Getting accosted by the police because I live in an area with higher crime is a danger to my well-being, because every encounter with the police carries risk.
- jmnicolas 6y ago
  We're not speaking of the same thing hence my confusion. To reduce risks with Police encounters, they have to be accountable. It seems to me that the US Police would benefit from more accountability so I gave the example of the French Police. I have no idea what they do with predictive policing here, but if they use it I can tell you with confidence that it's not working at all.
- lawnchair_larry 6y ago
  It’s actually been demonstrated that more police in high crime areas reduces crime and increases safety. When they pull back, crime goes up. So I don’t know why people say this. I also don’t know why people think it makes more sense to divert police resources away from where crimes are happening. Not even the linked report agrees with this.
  - adamsea 6y ago
    > I also don’t know why people think it makes more sense to divert police resources away from where crimes are happening. Because so many people who live in those communities consistently continue to say they both fear and distrust the police as the police exist today. And because people in those communities continually say they need other forms of resources and support from our society - mainly a real path for economic opportunity, but also affordable healthy food (google food deserts), etc - and they understandably are pissed that as a society we’ll police the heck out of poor, mostly black neighborhoods, but not make sustained investments to help those communities the same way that our society does many (not all! mainly the wealthy ones) white neighborhoods. I don’t think anyone actually wants lawlessness. People want the opposite. They want equality under the law, and for the police to be held legally responsible for when they break it, in one of worst ways possible - by killing.
    - lawnchair_larry 6y ago
      Great sounding theory, but not how it works.
      - adamsea 6y ago
        Great sounding theory, but not how it works. ; ) In other words, one can use phrases like that in response to anything, whether it's true or not ;).

Predictive policing is associated with selective policing, increasing the rate of police encounters for a set of people. Getting accosted by the police because I live in an area with higher crime is a danger to my well-being, because every encounter with the police carries risk.

jmnicolas 6y ago
We're not speaking of the same thing hence my confusion. To reduce risks with Police encounters, they have to be accountable. It seems to me that the US Police would benefit from more accountability so I gave the example of the French Police. I have no idea what they do with predictive policing here, but if they use it I can tell you with confidence that it's not working at all.
lawnchair_larry 6y ago
It’s actually been demonstrated that more police in high crime areas reduces crime and increases safety. When they pull back, crime goes up. So I don’t know why people say this. I also don’t know why people think it makes more sense to divert police resources away from where crimes are happening. Not even the linked report agrees with this.
- adamsea 6y ago
  > I also don’t know why people think it makes more sense to divert police resources away from where crimes are happening. Because so many people who live in those communities consistently continue to say they both fear and distrust the police as the police exist today. And because people in those communities continually say they need other forms of resources and support from our society - mainly a real path for economic opportunity, but also affordable healthy food (google food deserts), etc - and they understandably are pissed that as a society we’ll police the heck out of poor, mostly black neighborhoods, but not make sustained investments to help those communities the same way that our society does many (not all! mainly the wealthy ones) white neighborhoods. I don’t think anyone actually wants lawlessness. People want the opposite. They want equality under the law, and for the police to be held legally responsible for when they break it, in one of worst ways possible - by killing.
  - lawnchair_larry 6y ago
    Great sounding theory, but not how it works.
    - adamsea 6y ago
      Great sounding theory, but not how it works. ; ) In other words, one can use phrases like that in response to anything, whether it's true or not ;).