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And to think I was just about to buy a $400 2060 Super. I don't think I'll be doing that anymore.

by mkaic 6y ago

aligray 6y ago
I bought one at the start of the year, it’s always the way I suppose.
- ses1984 6y ago
  You got to use it for most of the year.
  - arvinsim 6y ago
    1 year of use is fair. I have 5700 XT and I think I got good value of it.
    - wlesieutre 6y ago
      I just went and checked my RX 5700 receipt and I paid $212 after tax last November. After selling the included Borderlands 3 license because I'd already bought it, net price under $200. GPU value of the century right there. But as a lighting nerd, I do want the raytracing...
      - elipsey 6y ago
        >> $212 after tax So they have doubled in price since then? wtf? https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007709%20601341487%20601341484&Order=1 https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007709%20601341487%20601341...
        wlesieutre 6y ago
        Ah, you're right. It was a good sale but not quite that crazy - still under $300 total. Combo deal from Newegg and for some reason they invoiced the two parts separately, so when I searched by "5700" it only found the first one. Went back by order number and found both invoices. Still, less than $300 for this card has been a great bargain. I've since picked up a 1440p screen and it's happily chugging along. Been most of a year and they're still selling for substantially more than this.
        elipsey 6y ago
        Thanks for the clarification. GPU prices have been so volatile that I will credulously believe almost anything at this point. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
        wlesieutre 6y ago
        Yeah, the price inflation on midrange cards was pretty crazy. My GTX 970 was around $375, and the 1000/2000 cards were way more expensive. The RX 5700 was the first worthwhile upgrade in a similar price range. Lack of competition paired with cryptocurrency miners.
        CydeWeys 6y ago
        The 5700 XT in that link is a different card than the 5700.
        elipsey 6y ago
        I see a bunch of both cards and they're both around 400 bucks, give or take... but I kinda figured putting a link to a view into a selection of newegg inventory would end confusing at best :facepalm: Anyway, ain't no $200 RX 5700.
        CydeWeys 6y ago
        There's been significant stocking issues on PC components since the pandemic began and thus prices have gone all sorts of crazy. You absolutely shouldn't spend that much on an RX 5700; the performance isn't remotely there to justify that price.
        wlesieutre 6y ago
        $290 + tax, and $30 back for reselling Borderlands, so effectively $260. BL3 was only a few months old but I think the value was tanked a bit by being an Epic Store key, it was free so I can't complain. The launch prices were $350 for the 5700 and $400 for the 5700 XT (after the pre-release price drop response to Nvidia), so $260 was $90 under list price, or 25% off. And really, even finding a GPU for list price instead of being marked up for mining ethereum (or whatever else) was a bit of a miracle compared to the last few years of GPU price insanity.
saberdancer 6y ago
I almost bought an 2080 Ti. Now I have to wait :).
easytiger 6y ago
I recently got a 2070 super OC. It really struggles with, say, COD:MW at near 4k Res (3440x1440). Indeed the campaign with RT on doesn't get more than ~50fps. Kinda disappointed really. Get about 100fps in multiplayer with everything turned off/low. But the cost of a 2080ti was ridiculous especially considering the open secret of its impending obsolescence. AMD really need to up their marketing budget. From the zeitgeist I've no idea where their lineup sits comparatively. No wonder they only have 20% market share
- hellotomyrars 6y ago
  AMD still don't offer a compelling product for the high-end, which Nvidia is taking full advantage of. AMD cards are the most economical on the market and have their own advantages but they're niche (Linux support is much better for example). AMD got on top of Intel by creating hardware that delivers. Just a few years ago AMD CPUs were economical, but the performance was abysmal, especially in single-threaded applications by comparison. They didn't make a product for the high-end. I am eagerly awaiting what the next series of AMD cards are going to be able to do. They're talking a big game for sure. But Nvidia has a big software advantage as well as a hardware advantage on AMD and that's likely to be a sticking point for me personally on my next purchase. Nvidia spends a lot of resources on working closely with developers and providing them support they need to take better advantage of the hardware with nvidia-specific features. AMD doesn't seem to do the same, and has had much higher profile issues with their drivers in my experience. All that said, I hope AMD can provide a product to truly compete at the high-end with Nvidia, to hopefully drive prices down as GPU prices have gone up dramatically on the high end.
verst 6y ago
About 4 months ago I picked up a 2060 Super for my ancient gaming desktop while I am waiting for the 3080 or 3090 to finally build a new gaming PC. Ideally I'd have a 4th gen Ryzen equivalent of the 3900X. The main reason my 2012 build of a PC is holding up ok was PCIE 3.0 support, so for me PCIE 4.0 is a must. The only thing I ever upgraded was the GPU and HDD. Went from 670 -> 980 -> 2060 Super. The i7-3370k (OC to about 4.3Ghz) has held up ok. The 16GB DD3-1866Mhz is slow however. Switching from a 2TB 5200 RPM drive to a 2TB NVMe SSD (Samsung EVO 860) for which I had to get a riser card since the ASROCK z77 Extreme 4 doesn't have m.2 made a huge difference also. When I upgraded to the RTX 2060 Super I ran out of PCI 3.0 lanes, and as a result my SSD is running slower, but that's ok. Suprisingly, I can play the new Microsoft Flight simulator just fine in 3440x1440 resolution on High Settings. Assassin's Creed Odyssey runs well in 1440p Ultra at ~60 FPS.
spaceisballer 6y ago
I bought a 2060 two weeks ago for $280. I don’t want to drop $499 on a 3070, very psyched about the 3060. Just seems like that won’t be until late this year.

And to think I was just about to buy a $400 2060 Super. I don't think I'll be doing that anymore.

by mkaic 6y ago

And to think I was just about to buy a $400 2060 Super. I don't think I'll be doing that anymore.

aligray 6y ago

I bought one at the start of the year, it’s always the way I suppose.

ses1984 6y ago
You got to use it for most of the year.
- arvinsim 6y ago
  1 year of use is fair. I have 5700 XT and I think I got good value of it.
  - wlesieutre 6y ago
    I just went and checked my RX 5700 receipt and I paid $212 after tax last November. After selling the included Borderlands 3 license because I'd already bought it, net price under $200. GPU value of the century right there. But as a lighting nerd, I do want the raytracing...
    - elipsey 6y ago
      >> $212 after tax So they have doubled in price since then? wtf? https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007709%20601341487%20601341484&Order=1 https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007709%20601341487%20601341...
      - wlesieutre 6y ago
        Ah, you're right. It was a good sale but not quite that crazy - still under $300 total. Combo deal from Newegg and for some reason they invoiced the two parts separately, so when I searched by "5700" it only found the first one. Went back by order number and found both invoices. Still, less than $300 for this card has been a great bargain. I've since picked up a 1440p screen and it's happily chugging along. Been most of a year and they're still selling for substantially more than this.
        elipsey 6y ago
        Thanks for the clarification. GPU prices have been so volatile that I will credulously believe almost anything at this point. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
        wlesieutre 6y ago
        Yeah, the price inflation on midrange cards was pretty crazy. My GTX 970 was around $375, and the 1000/2000 cards were way more expensive. The RX 5700 was the first worthwhile upgrade in a similar price range. Lack of competition paired with cryptocurrency miners.
      - CydeWeys 6y ago
        The 5700 XT in that link is a different card than the 5700.
        elipsey 6y ago
        I see a bunch of both cards and they're both around 400 bucks, give or take... but I kinda figured putting a link to a view into a selection of newegg inventory would end confusing at best :facepalm: Anyway, ain't no $200 RX 5700.
        CydeWeys 6y ago
        There's been significant stocking issues on PC components since the pandemic began and thus prices have gone all sorts of crazy. You absolutely shouldn't spend that much on an RX 5700; the performance isn't remotely there to justify that price.
        wlesieutre 6y ago
        $290 + tax, and $30 back for reselling Borderlands, so effectively $260. BL3 was only a few months old but I think the value was tanked a bit by being an Epic Store key, it was free so I can't complain. The launch prices were $350 for the 5700 and $400 for the 5700 XT (after the pre-release price drop response to Nvidia), so $260 was $90 under list price, or 25% off. And really, even finding a GPU for list price instead of being marked up for mining ethereum (or whatever else) was a bit of a miracle compared to the last few years of GPU price insanity.

saberdancer 6y ago

I almost bought an 2080 Ti. Now I have to wait :).

easytiger 6y ago

I recently got a 2070 super OC. It really struggles with, say, COD:MW at near 4k Res (3440x1440). Indeed the campaign with RT on doesn't get more than ~50fps. Kinda disappointed really. Get about 100fps in multiplayer with everything turned off/low. But the cost of a 2080ti was ridiculous especially considering the open secret of its impending obsolescence. AMD really need to up their marketing budget. From the zeitgeist I've no idea where their lineup sits comparatively. No wonder they only have 20% market share

hellotomyrars 6y ago
AMD still don't offer a compelling product for the high-end, which Nvidia is taking full advantage of. AMD cards are the most economical on the market and have their own advantages but they're niche (Linux support is much better for example). AMD got on top of Intel by creating hardware that delivers. Just a few years ago AMD CPUs were economical, but the performance was abysmal, especially in single-threaded applications by comparison. They didn't make a product for the high-end. I am eagerly awaiting what the next series of AMD cards are going to be able to do. They're talking a big game for sure. But Nvidia has a big software advantage as well as a hardware advantage on AMD and that's likely to be a sticking point for me personally on my next purchase. Nvidia spends a lot of resources on working closely with developers and providing them support they need to take better advantage of the hardware with nvidia-specific features. AMD doesn't seem to do the same, and has had much higher profile issues with their drivers in my experience. All that said, I hope AMD can provide a product to truly compete at the high-end with Nvidia, to hopefully drive prices down as GPU prices have gone up dramatically on the high end.

verst 6y ago

About 4 months ago I picked up a 2060 Super for my ancient gaming desktop while I am waiting for the 3080 or 3090 to finally build a new gaming PC. Ideally I'd have a 4th gen Ryzen equivalent of the 3900X. The main reason my 2012 build of a PC is holding up ok was PCIE 3.0 support, so for me PCIE 4.0 is a must. The only thing I ever upgraded was the GPU and HDD. Went from 670 -> 980 -> 2060 Super. The i7-3370k (OC to about 4.3Ghz) has held up ok. The 16GB DD3-1866Mhz is slow however. Switching from a 2TB 5200 RPM drive to a 2TB NVMe SSD (Samsung EVO 860) for which I had to get a riser card since the ASROCK z77 Extreme 4 doesn't have m.2 made a huge difference also. When I upgraded to the RTX 2060 Super I ran out of PCI 3.0 lanes, and as a result my SSD is running slower, but that's ok. Suprisingly, I can play the new Microsoft Flight simulator just fine in 3440x1440 resolution on High Settings. Assassin's Creed Odyssey runs well in 1440p Ultra at ~60 FPS.

spaceisballer 6y ago

I bought a 2060 two weeks ago for $280. I don’t want to drop $499 on a 3070, very psyched about the 3060. Just seems like that won’t be until late this year.