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Well, consider me happy (though weirded out a little) with the lack of points on comments - in retrospect, I think a lot of my downvoting behavior has to do wit
by Vivtek 16y ago
Well, consider me happy (though weirded out a little) with the lack of points on comments - in retrospect, I think a lot of my downvoting behavior has to do with what I think a post should have earned, not what I personally think about it, and that's probably bad.
OTOH, I'm in the habit of scanning for double-digit comments when I want to save a little time, so I miss that.
- ElliotH 16y agoCan no longer see even my own points. Don't think that's positive - I like the feedback over what comments I make that people like and which are less well received.
- Vivtek 16y agoYeah, I totally agree with that - I've gained 45 points in the last hour, but I don't know why. That's a big turnoff for me.
- rflrob 16y agoI would be okay if there were some way to tell roughly how many points a post was getting, even if it wasn't precise. For example, some sort of color coding that moved to warmer colors on a roughly logarithmic scale.
- Vivtek 16y agoHowever, upvoting appears to be broken just at the moment.
- nbpoole 16y agoLooks like it's fixed now.
- Vivtek 16y agoWhat's the threshold for the dot? I guess that takes the place of my double-digit filter.
- karlzt 16y agohttp://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=846123 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=846123
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- tseabrooks 16y agoThere are other comments about a 'dot' also. Am I missing something? I don't see any dots of any color (And I don't think I've ever seen any dots).
- Vivtek 16y agoThey're gone again.
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- karlzt 16y agothe dots were there 1 hour ago, pg changed it back.
- throwawayanw 16y agogone now
- JacobAldridge 16y agoAnd your noob throwaway account is now highlighted in Green. Check out the Noob Stories page for more (or to see if it's already changed back) - http://news.ycombinator.com/noobstories http://news.ycombinator.com/noobstories
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- credo 16y agoSometimes, I do the reverse of what you described. I upvote comments that are at -1 (even though I wouldn't have upvoted the comment if it hadn't been less than 1.) In these cases, I have a neutral feeling about the comment, but upvote it because 0, -1 etc. seem unfair. Hiding the points will mean that HN will lose some of its self-correcting capacity (when it comes to comments that were downvoted unfairly). Anyway, it will be interesting to see the results of this experiment.
- phlux 16y agoActually, I think there is a flaw in not providing the number: You have no idea which comments are generating activity When my number changes, I click threads and scan for a different number than I recall for my posts. This tells me which ones are still being read. If there was a visual indicator of posts that had the arrows ticked since I last looked - this would be solved. Otherwise, it is akin to throwing your comments to the wind with no indicator of how each is received unless they get greyed out by down voting. EDIT: I don't feel like I have any incentive to click the arrows on anything if I cant see the result of that click. This really really is a bad design choice. At a minimum we should be able to see our own scores. EDIT #2: Also, assuming two people reply to a questions asking for a recommendation for X with a link -- you have no idea what the crowd's opinion may be of the links without them replying. Typically good content is VOTED UP as an indicator that it is, in fact, good content. The more and more I think about not seeing content scores, the more obvious it is that this is just flat wrong to not show them.
- spydertennis 16y agoI think you can use notifo for this?
- Natsu 16y agoYeah, I do that too, sometimes, especially when I feel like someone has been downmodded by mistake.
- raquo 16y agoDownvoted comments' text is still in varying shades of gray though.
- hugh3 16y agoI don't know. If I can't see the little score increment or decrement in response to my up/down vote, I find I have very little urge to actually click either button. With no visual feedback to tell me "Yes, that click actually changed something", where's the satisfaction in voting?
- mryall 16y agoI've still seen points displayed on some comments. Is this a temporary glitch or is there some reason they'll be displayed sometimes?
- sliverstorm 16y agoYeah, I really miss being able to scan for high-point comments already. I've only spent about 15 minutes on HN with the new changes, and I've already basically started ignoring entire pages of comments because they'd take too long to sift through to find the insightful stuff.
- iamwil 16y agohigh point things usually float to the top.
- sliverstorm 16y agoThis is true for replies directly to the article, but replies to the comments turn everything into a huge mess. I liked being able to see at a glance whether the thread below a comment was worth reading as compared to the next comment.
- Vivtek 16y agoOn the other hand, you're saving time.
- nitrogen 16y agoI fear I'll spend more time on HN reading every single comment. Good for the less well-known posters who don't get upvoted by reputation alone, but bad for me and my work. However, having observed and stated that fear, I can now work to counteract it should the post counts remain hidden.
- Sandman 16y agoWhat you find by scanning for high-point comments is not necessarily insightful stuff but rather, most upvoted stuff. Then you upvote it, making it feature even more prominently on the page. The comments that you didn't read, no matter how insightful, get no points from you so they fall further down the thread. I've seen this happen, joke comments positioned very high while truly good comments are very low because nobody had the patience to reach the bottom of the page, read them and vote.