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> It absolutely is not a baby step. In fact it is a really big deal to jump from your own experience to assuming the intent of other people. That is actually a

> It absolutely is not a baby step. In fact it is a really big deal to jump from your own experience to assuming the intent of other people. That is actually a really fast way to anger people in my experience, because it requires that you pretend that you understand what is going on in another person's head. That is not correct. If you are blocking a freeway causing hours of traffic delays then I am not making assumptions about what's in somebody else's head. I don't care what their intentions are. They have made me disgruntled and digusted with their protest message completely alienating me from their cause. From that moment forward I would vote against and fund in opposition to everything they advocate. As the audience all that matters is what's in my head, which I don't have to guess at. The inability for people to accept that reality tells me the things they are protesting about aren't important to them.

CydeWeys 6y ago
The protests are working. It doesn't matter if you hypothetically would be pissed off about being stuck in traffic because of one, they are demonstrably working. So they absolutely continue despite your objections. See: https://thehill.com/homenews/news/502267-support-for-black-lives-matter-doubles-since-2016-poll https://thehill.com/homenews/news/502267-support-for-black-l... https://news.gallup.com/poll/317321/believe-protest-actions-aid-black-adults.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/317321/believe-protest-actions-... I think you should take a step back and really consider why you're arguing so vociferously over hypothetically being caught in traffic because of a protest when there are much larger issues at play here.
- austincheney 6y ago
  Neither of your links mention anything related to blocking freeways. Your second link mentions that violent protests are viewed extremely negatively. Where I live blocking a freeway would be viewed similarly. As negative as the numbers in your source suggest doing that a few times would tank support for any protest movement.
ashtonkem 6y ago
That’s literally a different argument. You’ve moved from “they’re intending to cause harm to people like me” to “I believe this tactic alienates people like me”. As I’ve said repeatedly, the latter is an argument about the efficacy of this type of protest. You’re free to believe that, I don’t care. But understand that “it doesn’t work” is a completely unrelated argument from “its intended to do X”.
biaachmonkie 6y ago
> From that moment forward I would vote against and fund in opposition to everything they advocate. So given the protests in the U.S.recently have been about the treatment of minorities by the Police specifically the killing and abuse of black people. Are you saying that if you were to be stopped in traffic due to a such a protest you would then support, fund, and vote for more Police abuse and killing of black people? Is that really what you're saying?

CydeWeys 6y ago

The protests are working. It doesn't matter if you hypothetically would be pissed off about being stuck in traffic because of one, they are demonstrably working. So they absolutely continue despite your objections. See: https://thehill.com/homenews/news/502267-support-for-black-lives-matter-doubles-since-2016-poll https://thehill.com/homenews/news/502267-support-for-black-l... https://news.gallup.com/poll/317321/believe-protest-actions-aid-black-adults.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/317321/believe-protest-actions-... I think you should take a step back and really consider why you're arguing so vociferously over hypothetically being caught in traffic because of a protest when there are much larger issues at play here.

austincheney 6y ago
Neither of your links mention anything related to blocking freeways. Your second link mentions that violent protests are viewed extremely negatively. Where I live blocking a freeway would be viewed similarly. As negative as the numbers in your source suggest doing that a few times would tank support for any protest movement.

ashtonkem 6y ago

That’s literally a different argument. You’ve moved from “they’re intending to cause harm to people like me” to “I believe this tactic alienates people like me”. As I’ve said repeatedly, the latter is an argument about the efficacy of this type of protest. You’re free to believe that, I don’t care. But understand that “it doesn’t work” is a completely unrelated argument from “its intended to do X”.

biaachmonkie 6y ago

> From that moment forward I would vote against and fund in opposition to everything they advocate. So given the protests in the U.S.recently have been about the treatment of minorities by the Police specifically the killing and abuse of black people. Are you saying that if you were to be stopped in traffic due to a such a protest you would then support, fund, and vote for more Police abuse and killing of black people? Is that really what you're saying?