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It’s pretty impressive that Ubuntu and Arch (Power User-only experiences in my mind) are considered an alternative to macOS by anyone at all. It shows the Linux

It’s pretty impressive that Ubuntu and Arch (Power User-only experiences in my mind) are considered an alternative to macOS by anyone at all. It shows the Linux desktop is actually delivering something very valuable despite the numbers. Although that the numbers don’t tell the whole story isn’t really saying much. What if it turned out that ease of use and OS-wide app consistency was the easy part all along? That building good APIs - which includes not changing them, making a good publishing experience - which includes not changing your rules every six months, and making your developers rich - which includes lowering fees - were the hard parts? Besides the average person does care about privacy and security. Keychain is a product everyone on macOS and iOS uses. Imagine if the OS forced Private Browsing to actually work.

nobodyandproud 6y ago
How reliable is the security vetting in the Ubuntu store?
dhagz 6y ago
The thing to remember is that, under all the chrome and Apple styling, macOS is rooted in BSD. So the power users who enjoy the *nix-y bits of macOS and are looking for a replacement will look for something that gives them more of that.
- extremeMath 6y ago
  Is this a real thing? Like there are people that don't VM/SSH into Linux but use shell? What demographic is this? College kids and Apple employees? It seems like minor benefit in an otherwise atrocious platform.
  - viro 6y ago
    Over the years I haven't found very many unix tools I couldn't install with homebrew. I'm also a big fan of the move from Bash to ZSH. Why start up a VM or SSH into another machine if I can just use Terminal or Iterm.
    - extremeMath 6y ago
      I don't understand. What commands are you sending your macbook outside installations? It's not like you are running a server, you still need to SSH into the server to do anything.
dTal 6y ago
For what it's worth, look-and-feel is arguably more consistent on an OSS desktop than the average commercial workstation, these days. The vast majority of free apps and DEs are built on either GTK or QT, which have a broadly similar feel and can be themed to look identical. Meanwhile, closed/commerical apps are a mess of in-house toolkits and embedded web interfaces, and Windows even has several inconsistent styles in the base install.

nobodyandproud 6y ago

How reliable is the security vetting in the Ubuntu store?

dhagz 6y ago

The thing to remember is that, under all the chrome and Apple styling, macOS is rooted in BSD. So the power users who enjoy the *nix-y bits of macOS and are looking for a replacement will look for something that gives them more of that.

extremeMath 6y ago
Is this a real thing? Like there are people that don't VM/SSH into Linux but use shell? What demographic is this? College kids and Apple employees? It seems like minor benefit in an otherwise atrocious platform.
- viro 6y ago
  Over the years I haven't found very many unix tools I couldn't install with homebrew. I'm also a big fan of the move from Bash to ZSH. Why start up a VM or SSH into another machine if I can just use Terminal or Iterm.
  - extremeMath 6y ago
    I don't understand. What commands are you sending your macbook outside installations? It's not like you are running a server, you still need to SSH into the server to do anything.

dTal 6y ago

For what it's worth, look-and-feel is arguably more consistent on an OSS desktop than the average commercial workstation, these days. The vast majority of free apps and DEs are built on either GTK or QT, which have a broadly similar feel and can be themed to look identical. Meanwhile, closed/commerical apps are a mess of in-house toolkits and embedded web interfaces, and Windows even has several inconsistent styles in the base install.