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Are you referring to the documented cases of UFO sightings by the US navy? AFAIK there were also numerous pilot testimonies and radar logs to prove what was hap

Are you referring to the documented cases of UFO sightings by the US navy? AFAIK there were also numerous pilot testimonies and radar logs to prove what was happening. Or is it a different case?

vinalk 6y ago
It’s fascinating to me that people with zero experience to be in that situation or use the equipment are saying what the pilots saw was wrong. Everyone is an expert on the Internet.
- sandworm101 6y ago
  It is equally fascinating to me that people who do not work with aircraft, pilots, ships, radars or aviation in general automatically assume that the pilots are not incorrect. being a military pilot doesn't make one an expert on all aircraft/weather/radar etc. The scope of their expertise is far smaller than popularly believed.
- dang 6y ago
  I suppose that people were always this way and that the internet has just brought the phenomenon to mass visibility.
cma 6y ago
The most prominent was from a pilot who had a history of UFO pranks (flying in over campfires silently then turning on afterburners; his story about doing that showed up in an online UFO report contemporaneously with when he described doing it).
dsaavy 6y ago
Mick West on YouTube has some pretty good explanations behind the UFO sightings by the US Navy. Here he goes through why the glare rotates while the horizon does not (and recreates the phenomenon): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka_bX9Hx1H0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka_bX9Hx1H0 Here he highlights the relevant gimbal information on the Navy display that explains the "sudden" movements of the UFO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1di0XIa9RQ&t=251s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1di0XIa9RQ&t=251s He's a retired developer who is now a science writer and skeptical investigator (just to give you an idea of where his expertise/bias may lie)
- ColanR 6y ago
  > retired developer who is now a science writer Unless there's some unmentioned specific expertise, that's not a very high bar, relative to what he's trying to discuss.
  - dsaavy 6y ago
    Sure it's not a high bar, I just wanted to point out what his background was. I don't want to suggest that you need specific credentials in order to conduct reasonable scientific investigations either. His videos do a decent job of replicating the behavior seen in the UFO videos in a simple way and will give experts in the area a starting point to agree/disagree with his conclusions. Especially with the simple descriptions of the gimbal behavior/limitations in range of motion paired with the data given in the view of the video.
l33tman 6y ago
Yeah there were a lot of auxiliary interviews that corroborated the story, going back like for the entire morning with radar operators tracking multiple objects. Still, since it feels absolutely crazy that the navy wouldn't investigate more closely in that situation and then just "leak" 20 seconds of it, suggests that it's some kind of intentional or unintentional hoax..
rhinoceraptor 6y ago
UFOs are just unidentified flying objects. It's pretty hard to identify flying objects when you're moving hundreds of miles per hour, looking at another object moving hundreds of miles per hour, from a distance of miles, and you're looking at it through a camera lens.

Are you referring to the documented cases of UFO sightings by the US navy? AFAIK there were also numerous pilot testimonies and radar logs to prove what was happening. Or is it a different case?

vinalk 6y ago

It’s fascinating to me that people with zero experience to be in that situation or use the equipment are saying what the pilots saw was wrong. Everyone is an expert on the Internet.

sandworm101 6y ago
It is equally fascinating to me that people who do not work with aircraft, pilots, ships, radars or aviation in general automatically assume that the pilots are not incorrect. being a military pilot doesn't make one an expert on all aircraft/weather/radar etc. The scope of their expertise is far smaller than popularly believed.
dang 6y ago
I suppose that people were always this way and that the internet has just brought the phenomenon to mass visibility.

cma 6y ago

The most prominent was from a pilot who had a history of UFO pranks (flying in over campfires silently then turning on afterburners; his story about doing that showed up in an online UFO report contemporaneously with when he described doing it).

dsaavy 6y ago

Mick West on YouTube has some pretty good explanations behind the UFO sightings by the US Navy. Here he goes through why the glare rotates while the horizon does not (and recreates the phenomenon): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka_bX9Hx1H0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka_bX9Hx1H0 Here he highlights the relevant gimbal information on the Navy display that explains the "sudden" movements of the UFO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1di0XIa9RQ&t=251s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1di0XIa9RQ&t=251s He's a retired developer who is now a science writer and skeptical investigator (just to give you an idea of where his expertise/bias may lie)

ColanR 6y ago
> retired developer who is now a science writer Unless there's some unmentioned specific expertise, that's not a very high bar, relative to what he's trying to discuss.
- dsaavy 6y ago
  Sure it's not a high bar, I just wanted to point out what his background was. I don't want to suggest that you need specific credentials in order to conduct reasonable scientific investigations either. His videos do a decent job of replicating the behavior seen in the UFO videos in a simple way and will give experts in the area a starting point to agree/disagree with his conclusions. Especially with the simple descriptions of the gimbal behavior/limitations in range of motion paired with the data given in the view of the video.

l33tman 6y ago

Yeah there were a lot of auxiliary interviews that corroborated the story, going back like for the entire morning with radar operators tracking multiple objects. Still, since it feels absolutely crazy that the navy wouldn't investigate more closely in that situation and then just "leak" 20 seconds of it, suggests that it's some kind of intentional or unintentional hoax..

rhinoceraptor 6y ago

UFOs are just unidentified flying objects. It's pretty hard to identify flying objects when you're moving hundreds of miles per hour, looking at another object moving hundreds of miles per hour, from a distance of miles, and you're looking at it through a camera lens.