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> But if your government is infringing your rights, it's very difficult for most people to pick a different government. I am not sure if I am attacking a straw

> But if your government is infringing your rights, it's very difficult for most people to pick a different government. I am not sure if I am attacking a straw man here, but it sure sounds like you claim that buying one way flight ticket is very difficult compared to getting rid of FAAMG in your life? I understand there are other complications involved in moving abroad that just the flight ticket, but I still think that the big global corps are much more difficult to get rid of than my government. Including the fact that they very much keep communication with my friends at least as much hostage as my government if I decide to move away.

dreamcompiler 6y ago
Moving to another country is quite difficult unless you are sponsored by an employer there, have dual citizenship, or are rich. Sure you can fly there, but your tourist visa will run out in a few weeks and they will kick you out if they can find you. So now you're on the run, and good luck finding a job, renting an apartment, or getting health care with an expired tourist visa. Oh and if you're an American, you won't be able to open an account in a local bank because American banking laws control all banks everywhere. The above are generalizations and some countries are easier to move to than others. And all of them IMO are much more difficult than deleting Facebook.
selectodude 6y ago
I haven't bought anything off Amazon in awhile. I'm sure I still use AWS when I browse the web but I'm not militant in my lack of support. Hopefully they move somewhere else, but it's fine regardless. I'd be on the next flight out if there was some sort of undocumented American community somewhere in Western Europe or something. But that simply doesn't exist.
- dash2 6y ago
  Last I looked, they were all in Berlin, pushing up the rent and talking about their startup.
  - selectodude 6y ago
    I do love Berlin :/
thinkloop 6y ago
I wonder when the F will drop like the N. Facebook is not close to as important/irreplaceable as Google, Microsoft, Apple, Amazon.

dreamcompiler 6y ago

Moving to another country is quite difficult unless you are sponsored by an employer there, have dual citizenship, or are rich. Sure you can fly there, but your tourist visa will run out in a few weeks and they will kick you out if they can find you. So now you're on the run, and good luck finding a job, renting an apartment, or getting health care with an expired tourist visa. Oh and if you're an American, you won't be able to open an account in a local bank because American banking laws control all banks everywhere. The above are generalizations and some countries are easier to move to than others. And all of them IMO are much more difficult than deleting Facebook.

selectodude 6y ago

I haven't bought anything off Amazon in awhile. I'm sure I still use AWS when I browse the web but I'm not militant in my lack of support. Hopefully they move somewhere else, but it's fine regardless. I'd be on the next flight out if there was some sort of undocumented American community somewhere in Western Europe or something. But that simply doesn't exist.

dash2 6y ago
Last I looked, they were all in Berlin, pushing up the rent and talking about their startup.
- selectodude 6y ago
  I do love Berlin :/

thinkloop 6y ago

I wonder when the F will drop like the N. Facebook is not close to as important/irreplaceable as Google, Microsoft, Apple, Amazon.