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freedom can only start with free speech and can only start dying with censorship, you tell me now .. puns are fun but lead nowhere if you want to talk seriousl
by fvv 6y ago
freedom can only start with free speech and can only start dying with censorship, you tell me now ..
puns are fun but lead nowhere if you want to talk seriously
- hobofan 6y agoSo which flavor of free speech[0] is good enough for you? Which countries pass the threshold? I know that the free speech we have in Germany is probably not good enough for most US people that are keen on free speech, but it's good enough for me (mostly). When someone calls on the "free world", it has mostly become a US patriotism dog whistle to me without any deeper meaning. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech_by_country
- fvv 6y agoit's not all black or white, but I can tell which gray is close to white and which is close to black, and you?
- hobofan 6y agoCan you? So China is close to black. Iran has strong internet censorship, so I guess close to black? What about Russia, where AFAIK a normal citizen is pretty free to access information and express their opinion, but bigger political figures are regularly poisoned? What about Turkey? People here in the comments are already pointing out Spain and the USA, which most people would probably assign to the "free world". Of course it's a spectrum, but at what difference between countries is such a boycott realistic and doesn't quickly turn into hypocrisy if not enacted against countries uniformly? Shouldn't the USA boycott Iran or Turkey in the same manner if they boycott China? Should Norway start to do the same to US companies?
- free_rms 6y agoIt all comes down to geopolitics. Iran and China will get the bad cop treatment, while Saudi Arabia gets kid gloves.
- TheCoelacanth 6y agoBanning calls for the extermination of entire races is hardly the same as banning the discussion of Tibetan independence.