Yes, teaching that sort of thing is sorely needed in my area of research computing support specifically, and something I've wanted to do. Unfortunately the col

Yes, teaching that sort of thing is sorely needed in my area of research computing support specifically, and something I've wanted to do. Unfortunately the collaboration I'm involved with only seems concerned with regurgitating Software Carpentry etc., so users don't get taught about programming and maintenance. There's a lot of talk about "software sustainability" that's often at odds with what I've learnt over decades practising it, and dogma which would have killed the most successful long-term collaborative project I've been involved with. I'm not sure it needs de nuovo examples, just general advice and techniques from long experience.