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Mozilla (as of 2018-2019[0]) gets millions of dollars from their profitable projects. Yes this pales in comparison to the hundreds of millions from web search

Mozilla (as of 2018-2019[0]) gets millions of dollars from their profitable projects. Yes this pales in comparison to the hundreds of millions from web search partnership but then so does donations. However, significantly growing revenue from paid products and services is very possible. Whereas increasing donations by two orders of magnitude is very very unlikely. > this has all been laid out in some detail by now Providing a link to that would be useful. [0]: https://assets.mozilla.net/annualreport/2018/mozilla-fdn-2018-short-form-final-0926.pdf https://assets.mozilla.net/annualreport/2018/mozilla-fdn-201...

jacquesm 6y ago
> However, significantly growing revenue from paid products and services is very possible. Of course it is possible, but that's called 'Accenture', not 'Mozilla'. Really, this all goes directly back to what I wrote above: Mozilla has an entirely different view of what company it wants to be from what the general public thinks it should be based on previous statements and there is no amount of creative redefinition that will solve that. If Mozilla wants to be an ordinary software house then that's fine by me but then stop using funds pulled in through FireFox to support the rest of the org and allow FireFox to be completely independent of the foundation. It is beyond ridiculous that an important resource like FireFox should be milked in order to start a software house that does not seem to be all that dedicated to keeping FF around for the long run. If FF dies then Mozilla has failed, and the income from the search box alone should be enough to ensure FireFox's continued existence for a long time into the future. That won't happen if Mozilla keeps raiding the piggy bank to cover for their mistakes, those 'millions of dollars from their profitable projects' are a drop in the proverbial bucket compared to the costs of the whole org. I'll bet you not a single sou of that effectively makes its way to FireFox due to the top heavy org structure.

jacquesm 6y ago

> However, significantly growing revenue from paid products and services is very possible. Of course it is possible, but that's called 'Accenture', not 'Mozilla'. Really, this all goes directly back to what I wrote above: Mozilla has an entirely different view of what company it wants to be from what the general public thinks it should be based on previous statements and there is no amount of creative redefinition that will solve that. If Mozilla wants to be an ordinary software house then that's fine by me but then stop using funds pulled in through FireFox to support the rest of the org and allow FireFox to be completely independent of the foundation. It is beyond ridiculous that an important resource like FireFox should be milked in order to start a software house that does not seem to be all that dedicated to keeping FF around for the long run. If FF dies then Mozilla has failed, and the income from the search box alone should be enough to ensure FireFox's continued existence for a long time into the future. That won't happen if Mozilla keeps raiding the piggy bank to cover for their mistakes, those 'millions of dollars from their profitable projects' are a drop in the proverbial bucket compared to the costs of the whole org. I'll bet you not a single sou of that effectively makes its way to FireFox due to the top heavy org structure.