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Regarding the so called long term effects: is there any research that tells us how prevalent they are? A lot of people mention cases like these, I'd like to se

Regarding the so called long term effects: is there any research that tells us how prevalent they are? A lot of people mention cases like these, I'd like to see some figures, also taking into account that pulmonary problems and fatigue, for one, are common to other diseases (even treatable ones). To be clear: I have no interest in downplaying severe effects of this infection. But I want to look at the whole picture.

legerdemain 6y ago
Here's a two-month-old summary of a few studies from JAMA Cardiology.[1] The most-quoted result is the Puntmann, et al., which has been amended after scrutiny, but showed pretty much the same pattern of results. Googling "COVID" + "cardiomyopathy" offers some more leads. For example, [2]. [1] https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768915 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/... [2] https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/88060 https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/88060
- lbeltrame 6y ago
  Thanks. Note that the JAMA editorial acknowledges the need for further studies, because the numbers are very small (compared to the known number of patients): > We wish not to generate additional anxiety but rather to incite other investigators to carefully examine existing and prospectively collect new data in other populations to confirm or refute these findings. Which is AFAICS the crux of the matter. No one knows how widespread these problems are.
  - legerdemain 6y ago
    Not to diminish the need for further research, but [1]. I encourage you to consider the growing number of cases of cardiomyopathy in college athletes, who are presumably in the invincible 18-21 age range and also not particularly numerous as a population. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Further_research_is_needed https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Further_research_is_needed

legerdemain 6y ago

Here's a two-month-old summary of a few studies from JAMA Cardiology.[1] The most-quoted result is the Puntmann, et al., which has been amended after scrutiny, but showed pretty much the same pattern of results. Googling "COVID" + "cardiomyopathy" offers some more leads. For example, [2]. [1] https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768915 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/... [2] https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/88060 https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/88060

lbeltrame 6y ago
Thanks. Note that the JAMA editorial acknowledges the need for further studies, because the numbers are very small (compared to the known number of patients): > We wish not to generate additional anxiety but rather to incite other investigators to carefully examine existing and prospectively collect new data in other populations to confirm or refute these findings. Which is AFAICS the crux of the matter. No one knows how widespread these problems are.
- legerdemain 6y ago
  Not to diminish the need for further research, but [1]. I encourage you to consider the growing number of cases of cardiomyopathy in college athletes, who are presumably in the invincible 18-21 age range and also not particularly numerous as a population. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Further_research_is_needed https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Further_research_is_needed