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If anyone still cares, this was the case that created such an uproar last May when it was widely reported that Mark Zuckerberg had been accused of committing "s
by grellas 16y ago
If anyone still cares, this was the case that created such an uproar last May when it was widely reported that Mark Zuckerberg had been accused of committing "securities fraud," allegedly adding to his supposedly shady legal woes (prior HN discussion here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1362379 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1362379).
In fact, the securities-fraud claim was merely some legal legerdemain by which the Winklevoss brothers sought to set aside the $65 million settlement they had struck with Facebook in their quest to obtain more. It is basically absurd to say that a party settling a legal case must comply with the disclosure laws for making a private placement in offering a stock component as part of a settlement package in a mediation context.
The Ninth Circuit panel here obviously agreed, and the writing was on the wall on this issue even after the oral argument held three months ago (see my comment here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2096370 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2096370).
The case is not necessarily dead, at least in theory, since the Winklevoss brothers might petition to have it reconsidered en banc by the full Ninth Circuit and can file for a writ to the Supreme Court. At this stage, though, such options are long-shot options at best.
I note one irony in passing. The ratio of the stock value to cash payment that made up the original settlement was not coincidental. The $65 million value consisted of 1.2 million Facebook shares originally valued at $45 million plus $20 million in cash. Receipt of such stock is a taxable transaction and, indeed, would constitute ordinary income to the Winklevoss brothers. Thus, they were to have received $65 million in taxable income, including $20 million in cash to help cover the tax. But that was then. Having chosen to fight the issue, they would not have realized any form of taxable income on this deal until they actually received the stock. As a result, when they now receive the cash/stock package, they will realize an estimated $170 million in taxable income (the cash plus FB stock worth $150 million), with only $20 million to help defray taxes. That stock will not be immediately marketable, even on the secondary exchanges and will require FB's permission to be sold there. The net result, unless I mis-analyze, is that the Winklevoss brothers have by their choosing to fight managed to convert over $100 million in stock value from what would have been a long-term capital gain into ordinary income, will have to pay much higher taxes accordingly, and will (I would assume) be faced with a serious logistical problem in the form of a short-term cash squeeze in raising funds to cover the taxes. I am not a tax specialist and may be wrong on this, but I don't think so.
FB dodged a bullet on this one. Had the settlement been set aside, the liability overhang would very likely have messed up its IPO, among other serious consequences. That was the gamble apparently made by the Winklevoss brothers - that they would be able to exact a much larger settlement as a result of their leverage obtained from having the issues re-opened. It appears, though, that they gambled and lost and not without detriment to themselves. For its part, FB now seems to be in the clear.
- dhimes 16y agoIt is basically absurd to say that a party settling a legal case must comply with the disclosure laws for making a private placement in offering a stock component as part of a settlement package. Why is it absurd? In particular, is it legal to lie about the value of the stock in a negotiation? I'm genuinely curious.
- phlux 16y agoWhen Lockheed Martin was buying a company I was with a few years ago - the company was telling the employees that the private stock price was X. And that they were not going to sell the company. Then, when the deal came through - the sale price was effectively 20% of the price that was previously told all the employees, and that any employees that joined the company in the last 12 months would receive nothing for their shares. They additionally, gave executive stock bonuses to the C-level team to compensate for the difference between the original stated price and the ultimate selling price. Further, they didn't allow any ESPP and gave no lockheed stock to any employees (except the C-Level). Had the employees been allowed to exchange their stock options dividends for money to buy Lockheed stock for street value - the employees would have made out ok - lockheeds stock tripled in the next 12 months due to the war on terror. Instead - they sold into Lockheed and had no incentive package for any new employees, fucked over existing employees and any employees who were there for <12 months got nothing. Employees pretty much left after that - and HR had no answer as to how they were incentivising any new hires with anything more than a paycheck.
- dhimes 16y agoThat's pretty shitty behavior. I guess they figure "that's just business" or "we did what we had to do." But I'm a little confused as to how it all plays out legally. Suppose, for example, an employee negotiates a package with a company, and part of that negotiation is for a stock package that the company estimates is worth X. Now, it seems to me that the estimate has to be a good-faith estimate in order for the negotiation to be valid. If the employee signs an NDA or a non-compete, it would seem like finding out that the company lied should invalidate the contracts signed as a result of that negotiation (the NDA or NC). It's one thing if something truly unforeseeable arises which destroys the value of the stock. It's something else if it's done in bad faith. But, I'm not a lawyer, and there's probably a reason that I am not one.