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> Both France and Sweden need to scale back their systems > because it's just not efficient or cost effective. What? Both countries have amazingly cost effect
by galactus 16y ago
> Both France and Sweden need to scale back their systems
> because it's just not efficient or cost effective.
What? Both countries have amazingly cost effective health care systems!
- m_myers 16y agoAnd now that both sides have made mutually contradictory and equally unsupported statements, I believe the first round is a draw. Galactus will have the honors in the second round. Proceed, gentlemen.
- arethuza 16y agoIt's fairly easy to find supporting information for the galactus view e.g.: http://ucatlas.ucsc.edu/spend.php http://ucatlas.ucsc.edu/spend.php
- jbooth 16y agoAnd frankly, it should be common knowledge that western europe has better/equivalent outcomes at less than half of our cost (very round figures to sidestep the nitpicking), meaning, at minimum, they're getting at least twice the value per cost that we are, and that's rounding every number in the direction that's unfavorable to europe. I could argue that let's just copy the system within europe that works best and we can go for 3x. Unfortunately, doing things that have been empirically borne out to work doesn't seem to be on the agenda these days.