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Moving to any small town puts experienced engineers at a disadvantage. There isn't any competition and moving positions often means moving cities again, you rea

by sosuke 16y ago

Moving to any small town puts experienced engineers at a disadvantage. There isn't any competition and moving positions often means moving cities again, you really have to find the right kind of person for that.

mindcrime 16y ago
The south isn't all small towns though. The "Research Triangle" area alone has a total population of around 1.7 million[1] people, which would rank it the 5th largest city in the US if it were one city[2], instead of several loosely connected independent cities and towns. Charlotte, NC, is the 17th largest city in the US with a population of just over 731,000 [3]. Really, there's a lot more to the southern states than people realize. Andy Griffith was NOT an accurate depiction of what the modern south is like. :-) [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_Triangle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_Triangle [2]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by... [3]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte,_North_Carolina http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte,_North_Carolina
- sosuke 16y ago
  NC is North to me (Central Texas) and many of the guy's I've worked with in Georgia. So when he was saying southern town without just naming the darn city I'm expecting something without a greater metropolitan area. The last guy that I worked with from Charlotte was an awesome developer so "howdy" from Austin.
  - mindcrime 16y ago
    NC is North to me Hey, hey... careful, them's fightin' words! Oh, wait, there I go fulfilling a stereotype about people from here... dangit. :-) Seriously though, when people talk about "The South" I assume they mean something roughly like "South of the Mason/Dixon line" or "State that fought as part of the Confederacy during the Civil War." When people say "Deep South" I take that to mean something a little more restrictive.. Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, etc. The last guy that I worked with from Charlotte was an awesome developer so "howdy" from Austin. Gnarly! "Howdy" back, from RTP!
    - kls 16y ago
      When people say "Deep South" I take that to mean something a little more restrictive.. Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, etc. Why do we Floridians get forgotten every time someone mentions the deep south culturally we are (where) similar to South Georgia and have a lot of Spanish and Southern history. We are like the Rodney Dangerfield of the south.
      - mindcrime 16y ago
        Heh, sorry, bro. I almost put FL, but in my mind, Florida has a distinctive culture that separates it a bit from Georgia, Mississippi, etc. Maybe that's just because I tend to think "South Florida" when I think of Florida... since I'm a Miami Dolphins die-hard. :-)
        kls 16y ago
        Yeah most people do think of South Florida when they think of FL. It funny how similar we are to CA with south and north FL being so totally different like it is in CA. Up until the 50's all of Florida was culturally similar to a mix of Georgia and Louisiana. After the 50's it all changed, I grew up in a town called Vero and it was on the dividing line between south and north. It was a cool place to be, like living on the border of two totally different cultures. That being said the gulf coast is still rich in old Florida culture. The coolest part about Florida is we have a deep pirate history, being a pirate buff as a child it was an awesome place to grow up.
- earl 16y ago
  The original poster specifically said, "not particularly well known for having a strong tech culture". I read that to exclude at least the research triangle and Austin.
  - mindcrime 16y ago
    Ah, I read that as him saying that "the south" as a whole, was "not particularly well known for having a strong tech culture."
    - ghotli 16y ago
      I pretty much meant the areas where it is not well known, which is most of it. I went back and forth about whether or not to generalize it to smaller, less robust economies or not. The comments thus far in this thread seem to support the thought that I should have constrained the question more.

by sosuke 16y ago

mindcrime 16y ago

The south isn't all small towns though. The "Research Triangle" area alone has a total population of around 1.7 million[1] people, which would rank it the 5th largest city in the US if it were one city[2], instead of several loosely connected independent cities and towns. Charlotte, NC, is the 17th largest city in the US with a population of just over 731,000 [3]. Really, there's a lot more to the southern states than people realize. Andy Griffith was NOT an accurate depiction of what the modern south is like. :-) [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_Triangle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_Triangle [2]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by... [3]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte,_North_Carolina http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte,_North_Carolina

sosuke 16y ago
NC is North to me (Central Texas) and many of the guy's I've worked with in Georgia. So when he was saying southern town without just naming the darn city I'm expecting something without a greater metropolitan area. The last guy that I worked with from Charlotte was an awesome developer so "howdy" from Austin.
- mindcrime 16y ago
  NC is North to me Hey, hey... careful, them's fightin' words! Oh, wait, there I go fulfilling a stereotype about people from here... dangit. :-) Seriously though, when people talk about "The South" I assume they mean something roughly like "South of the Mason/Dixon line" or "State that fought as part of the Confederacy during the Civil War." When people say "Deep South" I take that to mean something a little more restrictive.. Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, etc. The last guy that I worked with from Charlotte was an awesome developer so "howdy" from Austin. Gnarly! "Howdy" back, from RTP!
  - kls 16y ago
    When people say "Deep South" I take that to mean something a little more restrictive.. Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, etc. Why do we Floridians get forgotten every time someone mentions the deep south culturally we are (where) similar to South Georgia and have a lot of Spanish and Southern history. We are like the Rodney Dangerfield of the south.
    - mindcrime 16y ago
      Heh, sorry, bro. I almost put FL, but in my mind, Florida has a distinctive culture that separates it a bit from Georgia, Mississippi, etc. Maybe that's just because I tend to think "South Florida" when I think of Florida... since I'm a Miami Dolphins die-hard. :-)
      - kls 16y ago
        Yeah most people do think of South Florida when they think of FL. It funny how similar we are to CA with south and north FL being so totally different like it is in CA. Up until the 50's all of Florida was culturally similar to a mix of Georgia and Louisiana. After the 50's it all changed, I grew up in a town called Vero and it was on the dividing line between south and north. It was a cool place to be, like living on the border of two totally different cultures. That being said the gulf coast is still rich in old Florida culture. The coolest part about Florida is we have a deep pirate history, being a pirate buff as a child it was an awesome place to grow up.
earl 16y ago
The original poster specifically said, "not particularly well known for having a strong tech culture". I read that to exclude at least the research triangle and Austin.
- mindcrime 16y ago
  Ah, I read that as him saying that "the south" as a whole, was "not particularly well known for having a strong tech culture."
  - ghotli 16y ago
    I pretty much meant the areas where it is not well known, which is most of it. I went back and forth about whether or not to generalize it to smaller, less robust economies or not. The comments thus far in this thread seem to support the thought that I should have constrained the question more.