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? Not a fan of Flash, but video-playback is a very, very small part of the Flash platform (and even then it's often producer-friendly in the form of supporting

? Not a fan of Flash, but video-playback is a very, very small part of the Flash platform (and even then it's often producer-friendly in the form of supporting extensive DRM for the illusion of content control), while it is virtually all of QuickTime. QuickTime is completely obsolete. Flash is just mostly obsolete.

chc 16y ago
I'm confused. Are you saying video playback is obsolete, or was there some new video playback library with similar breadth to QuickTime that I didn't know about which as rendered it obsolete?
- bogomips 16y ago
  QuickTime is terribly obsolete, joining the ranks of products like RealPlayer. It has no reason to exist in the modern platform. http://www.apple.com/ipad/guided-tours/ http://www.apple.com/ipad/guided-tours/ On h264/Ogg/webM capable browsers, I'm told to download and install QuickTime. If we want to talk about hypocrisy, it starts there.
  - chc 16y ago
    RealPlayer was a program and browser plugin focused around one proprietary format. QuickTime is an A/V library supporting a wide array of codecs — it's the standard way to play video on the Mac. If it's obsolete, then what is the replacement?
    - yuhong 15y ago
      HTML5 video, I think. Even Apple is no longer promoting the QuickTime plug-in.
      - chc 15y ago
        That isn't an alternative; it's an orthogonal technology. Saying the video tag renders QuickTime obsolete is like saying the img tag renders libpng and libjpeg obsolete. HTML5 video is a standard for specifying video files to play — it doesn't actually provide video playback. QuickTime and its codecs are still used to actually decode and play the videos (again, I'm talking about the Mac here).
        yuhong 15y ago
        That is why I said the plug-in. I know that Safari themselves uses QuickTime to play HTML5 video.
        calloc 15y ago
        You are not making any sense. You say that Quicktime is outdated technology and has to be banished, yet you are okay with browsers using it to display HTML5 video? How does that work? On Mac OS X to do anything with video you use QuickTime. QuickTime isn't just the front end software. It provides an API that can be used to create all kinds of software, not only that it allows other codecs to easily be installed (see Perian for Mac OS X).
        yuhong 15y ago
        Sorry, misread the OP.

chc 16y ago

I'm confused. Are you saying video playback is obsolete, or was there some new video playback library with similar breadth to QuickTime that I didn't know about which as rendered it obsolete?

bogomips 16y ago
QuickTime is terribly obsolete, joining the ranks of products like RealPlayer. It has no reason to exist in the modern platform. http://www.apple.com/ipad/guided-tours/ http://www.apple.com/ipad/guided-tours/ On h264/Ogg/webM capable browsers, I'm told to download and install QuickTime. If we want to talk about hypocrisy, it starts there.
- chc 16y ago
  RealPlayer was a program and browser plugin focused around one proprietary format. QuickTime is an A/V library supporting a wide array of codecs — it's the standard way to play video on the Mac. If it's obsolete, then what is the replacement?
  - yuhong 15y ago
    HTML5 video, I think. Even Apple is no longer promoting the QuickTime plug-in.
    - chc 15y ago
      That isn't an alternative; it's an orthogonal technology. Saying the video tag renders QuickTime obsolete is like saying the img tag renders libpng and libjpeg obsolete. HTML5 video is a standard for specifying video files to play — it doesn't actually provide video playback. QuickTime and its codecs are still used to actually decode and play the videos (again, I'm talking about the Mac here).
      - yuhong 15y ago
        That is why I said the plug-in. I know that Safari themselves uses QuickTime to play HTML5 video.
        calloc 15y ago
        You are not making any sense. You say that Quicktime is outdated technology and has to be banished, yet you are okay with browsers using it to display HTML5 video? How does that work? On Mac OS X to do anything with video you use QuickTime. QuickTime isn't just the front end software. It provides an API that can be used to create all kinds of software, not only that it allows other codecs to easily be installed (see Perian for Mac OS X).
        yuhong 15y ago
        Sorry, misread the OP.