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There is not a major political party in the US that advocates for an employment guarantee, banning private property, or withdrawing all armed forces from around

by 1-more 6y ago

There is not a major political party in the US that advocates for an employment guarantee, banning private property, or withdrawing all armed forces from around the world. These are positions you would expect from a range of left parties in a parliamentary system. There is however a party that wants to let your employer fire you for any reason whatsoever. It's not even close.

Chlorus 6y ago
"There is not a major political party in the US that advocates for an employment guarantee, banning private property, or withdrawing all armed forces from around the world. These are positions you would expect from a range of left parties in a parliamentary system." That's a pretty loose definition of 'major'. Parliamentary systems sound pretty shitty then - keep in mind the Golden Dawn, UKIP, and any one of the perennial "let's deport all the Roma" parties also counts as a major political party under your definition.
AlexTWithBeard 6y ago
> banning private property, or withdrawing all armed forces from around the world US democratic party is not a flock of angels... but they're certainly not idiots.
- rtx 6y ago
  Maybe just start by not protecting war criminals.
- groby_b 6y ago
  This has of course nothing to do with the original question, where they fall on the spectrum of political opinions. The democrats are roughly center-right when you look at it in comparison to major countries across the world. See e.g. https://qz.com/1748903/how-2020-us-democratic-candidates-compare-to-global-politicians/ https://qz.com/1748903/how-2020-us-democratic-candidates-com...
  - AlexTWithBeard 6y ago
    Right, but what kind of conclusion can be made here? Is US too right? Or Europe is too left? Or both are off and the optimal society requires much lefter/righter policies?
    - groby_b 6y ago
      I'm not sure you can draw any conclusion here. (Except, seemingly, "I don't like this, don't have any rational argument, and so should downvote" ;) The only one that you can make, based on the data, is that US politics trend much further right than many other places, and that talking about "Democrats" and "the left" in the same breath doesn't make any sense in a global context. They just aren't. And I think that is very relevant when you want to talk about US politics. It defines the available spectrum.
    - anm89 6y ago
      Where outside of North Korea, Stalin or Mao had abolished private property or has a full employment guarantee?
anm89 6y ago
> advocates for an employment guarantee, banning private property Why would there be? These are ridiculous goals. North Korea has open doors if you want to defect. I've heard it's pretty nice over there.

by 1-more 6y ago

Chlorus 6y ago

"There is not a major political party in the US that advocates for an employment guarantee, banning private property, or withdrawing all armed forces from around the world. These are positions you would expect from a range of left parties in a parliamentary system." That's a pretty loose definition of 'major'. Parliamentary systems sound pretty shitty then - keep in mind the Golden Dawn, UKIP, and any one of the perennial "let's deport all the Roma" parties also counts as a major political party under your definition.

AlexTWithBeard 6y ago

> banning private property, or withdrawing all armed forces from around the world US democratic party is not a flock of angels... but they're certainly not idiots.

rtx 6y ago
Maybe just start by not protecting war criminals.
groby_b 6y ago
This has of course nothing to do with the original question, where they fall on the spectrum of political opinions. The democrats are roughly center-right when you look at it in comparison to major countries across the world. See e.g. https://qz.com/1748903/how-2020-us-democratic-candidates-compare-to-global-politicians/ https://qz.com/1748903/how-2020-us-democratic-candidates-com...
- AlexTWithBeard 6y ago
  Right, but what kind of conclusion can be made here? Is US too right? Or Europe is too left? Or both are off and the optimal society requires much lefter/righter policies?
  - groby_b 6y ago
    I'm not sure you can draw any conclusion here. (Except, seemingly, "I don't like this, don't have any rational argument, and so should downvote" ;) The only one that you can make, based on the data, is that US politics trend much further right than many other places, and that talking about "Democrats" and "the left" in the same breath doesn't make any sense in a global context. They just aren't. And I think that is very relevant when you want to talk about US politics. It defines the available spectrum.
  - anm89 6y ago
    Where outside of North Korea, Stalin or Mao had abolished private property or has a full employment guarantee?

anm89 6y ago

> advocates for an employment guarantee, banning private property Why would there be? These are ridiculous goals. North Korea has open doors if you want to defect. I've heard it's pretty nice over there.